[Sassy]

You are a republican.I think thats the defining thing that seperates Dems and Republicans.I have all sorts of friends who are republicans who feel they pulled themselves up from no where and worked to where they are today with nobodys help which is true to a certain point but these guys went to the same white suburban schools with me that had good teachers and had both parents active in their life.That makes a huge difference when it comes to shaping a persons overall view of life,how to treat people and how hard they need to work to be a success.Education is the key to getting all these people off the streets and not killing each other over coke.Theres no hope in inner cities with poor schools.Your father if you knew him never graduated so its no big deal if you dont.I see it every day when I drive around Philly and read the papers.Its a terrible cycle where the only guy in the neighborhood who needs to know how to spell is the guy who air brushes those white tshirts they wear to funerals with the guys name on it who got shot.In laymens terms the better the education you provide to these sorry motherfuckers the less chance of them mugging you when they get older.I know it sucks that its come to that but its almost human nature.Republicans bristle at paying anyones way because they believe they were born smart but they were just lucky.Unfortunately the education system is broken in this country and its no coincidence that the least educated are the ones most likely to commit crimes or be on welfare.Why not try to change that by improving schools with tax dollars instead of spending trillions on a war?

As far as who I like I try not to get swayed by peoples personalities and focus on their stance on issues.I was a mcain guy a little bit until he kept backing the surge a few months back.I like both Clinton and Obama almost equally.I think Obama brings a fresh approach which I like but I think they are both on the right track.

Thanks and you are a delightful person too.
No I am a .If the defining thing that seperates Dems and Republicans is, then I'll be very surprised.How many?
"What kind is it" makes a huge difference when it comes to shaping a persons overall view of lifehow to treat people and how hard they need to work to be a success ?
I get

What kind is it

. Is it the only one?
Has there ever been hope in inner cities with poor schools?I don't have a lover if you knew him never graduated so its no big deal if you do not parameterWhere do you see it every day when he or she drive around Philly and read the papers?it every day when he or she drive around Philly and read the papers is a terrible cycle where the only guy in the neighborhood who needs to know how to spell is the guy who air brushes those white tshirts they wear to funerals with the guys name on it who got shot. I suppose that makes sense.What is in laymens terms the better the education you provide to these sorry motherfuckers the less chance of them mugging you when they get older like in there? How do you know? That bad, eh?I never heard of it before.Oh.
Is that a fact. Becuase you asked me to.That might not be very far off.And then what happened to you?You are not the only one.


I like pets.
I like anything.Since when? All of them?

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I was waiting for sassy to weigh in on this

[Anhil8tor]

she likes pets..


what more is there to say?

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You are a republican.I think thats the defining thing that seperates Dems and Republicans.I have all sorts of friends who are republicans who feel they pulled themselves up from no where and worked to where they are today with nobodys help which is true to a certain point but these guys went to the same white suburban schools with me that had good teachers and had both parents active in their life.That makes a huge difference when it comes to shaping a persons overall view of life,how to treat people and how hard they need to work to be a success.Education is the key to getting all these people off the streets and not killing each other over coke.Theres no hope in inner cities with poor schools.Your father if you knew him never graduated so its no big deal if you dont.I see it every day when I drive around Philly and read the papers.Its a terrible cycle where the only guy in the neighborhood who needs to know how to spell is the guy who air brushes those white tshirts they wear to funerals with the guys name on it who got shot.In laymens terms the better the education you provide to these sorry motherfuckers the less chance of them mugging you when they get older.I know it sucks that its come to that but its almost human nature.Republicans bristle at paying anyones way because they believe they were born smart but they were just lucky.Unfortunately the education system is broken in this country and its no coincidence that the least educated are the ones most likely to commit crimes or be on welfare.Why not try to change that by improving schools with tax dollars instead of spending trillions on a war?

As far as who I like I try not to get swayed by peoples personalities and focus on their stance on issues.I was a mcain guy a little bit until he kept backing the surge a few months back.I like both Clinton and Obama almost equally.I think Obama brings a fresh approach which I like but I think they are both on the right track.

I'll go with you all the way through bettering education, then stop. you're right that educational opportunities need to be the same, and don't think either side is against improving education. which party is the school voucher party? rather than bussing kids to "better" school districts I think we should be improving the "worse" ones. but even with things as they are now, success stories come out of inner cities all the time. plenty of people didn't have the same advantages I did but still have made themselves into something, probably something more than me. anyway, I'm all for "teach a man to fish" government spending. I'm not for "give a man a fish" programs, handouts for people who are too sorry to contribute. let darwin work a little magic on the gene pool.

universal healthcare could be great if I look at the plan, but the first thought I have is that it means we'll be paying for any and everyone, legal or illegal, working or not, to get top quality healthcare. or maybe we'll be watering down the quality of healthcare for the group of people who work and carry insurance now. I dunno which, but neither of those sounds good to me. so if not being in favor of handouts makes me a republican, I guess I painted myself into that corner.

[Sassy]

I'll go with you all the way through bettering education, then stop. you're right that educational opportunities need to be the same, and don't think either side is against improving education. which party is the school voucher party? rather than bussing kids to "better" school districts I think we should be improving the "worse" ones. but even with things as they are now, success stories come out of inner cities all the time. plenty of people didn't have the same advantages I did but still have made themselves into something, probably something more than me. anyway, I'm all for "teach a man to fish" government spending. I'm not for "give a man a fish" programs, handouts for people who are too sorry to get a contribute. let darwin work a little magic on the gene pool.

universal healthcare could be great if I look at the plan, but the first thought I have is that it means we'll be paying for any and everyone, legal or illegal, working or not, to get top quality healthcare. or maybe we'll be watering down the quality of healthcare for the group of people who work and carry insurance now. I dunno which, but neither of those sounds good to me. so if not being in favor of handouts makes me a republican, I guess I painted myself into that corner.

How will you get there?I won't say "yes" or "no" right now.The
red one, I think.Interesting deduction.
Other people say they like vacuum cleaning robots, humanoid robots and chat robots.That is a lot. Interesting.
Yes, even that.OK Let's talk about you.Why are you for teach a man to fish government spending.
I am surprised to hear that you are not for give a man a fish programs handouts for people who are too sorry to get a contribute.
Do you still trusted bush more than kerry last time - he or she is still not convinced he or she decided that wrongly even in hindsight because he or she think we'd have different and possibly larger problems under a kerry administration?
Are they exactly the same?
Oh.
Perhaps. Anytime soon?Me either. The
blue one, I think.Interesting deduction. I'm not too good with negative counterfactuals.

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vacuum cleaning robots take jobs away that could go to americans that just need a chance

[BIRD33]

I'll go with you all the way through bettering education, then stop. you're right that educational opportunities need to be the same, and don't think either side is against improving education. which party is the school voucher party? rather than bussing kids to "better" school districts I think we should be improving the "worse" ones. but even with things as they are now, success stories come out of inner cities all the time. plenty of people didn't have the same advantages I did but still have made themselves into something, probably something more than me. anyway, I'm all for "teach a man to fish" government spending. I'm not for "give a man a fish" programs, handouts for people who are too sorry to contribute. let darwin work a little magic on the gene pool.

universal healthcare could be great if I look at the plan, but the first thought I have is that it means we'll be paying for any and everyone, legal or illegal, working or not, to get top quality healthcare. or maybe we'll be watering down the quality of healthcare for the group of people who work and carry insurance now. I dunno which, but neither of those sounds good to me. so if not being in favor of handouts makes me a republican, I guess I painted myself into that corner.

Sorry but the GOP is against spending money to improve education.Vouchers are a way around spending real money on fixing public education.You force the school that these kids are leaving to go to a private school to pay a portion of the tuition which only shrinks the budget of the school that was already failing.Not everyone can get a voucher so the kids still at the public school get stuck at a shitty school with an even smaller budget.The Dems are in the pocket of school teacher unions so thats some what of a problem because a lot of teachers are just worried about keeping what they have without having to produce any results.The No Child Left Behind bill is a good start on making teachers show results but teachers are complaining that they never had the budget to succeed in the first place.The GOP don't want to spend the cash which is ridiculous when you consider how much money we're wasting in Iraq.

As far as hand outs I'm no fan of giving to people who like you said are to sorry to contribute but what about those peoples kids?Do they deserve a life of poverty and limited education because their parents are dickheads?I just don't think its fair because it could easily be me or you.If you think we're already spending enough drive through an inner city neighborhood sometime and realize 80% of the people there would improve their lives if they could.The other reason I'm for helping those people out is a little more selfish.The better you educate those people with schools that actually work the less chance they rob, murder or rape any of my family.Thats a fact.

As far as healthcare we are already paying for illegals if they go to the emergency room,always have been always will be.Universal healthcare is for honest people who can't afford to pay $15,000 a year for health insurance for their family when their income is only $35,000.Republicans are in the pocket of the insurance companies so you'll hear all sorts of horror storys about socialized medicine which just arent true.Guiliani said in the last debate that the odds of surviving prostate cancer in britian is 44% compared to 80% here.Thats a flat out lie and you can't trust him.The odds are around 77% in England.Keep in mind that everyone in england gets health care and they pay only 42% of what we pay for it.

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if I wasn't clear I'm against vouchers. is there a real education candidate that can get something done? (I'm really asking)

I also thought about the kids when I replied, but how do you get money to the kids? if the parents suck, giving them money isn't going to help the kids. then what? take the kids? I would guess that the 80% that would improve their lives if they could is high. why can't they? can they do your job? mine? no. can they clean the buildings we work in or flip our burgers? yeah, if they drag their asses to work, don't show up high, whatever. that's way too general I know but this is the land of opportunity, right? pour money into making opportunity, but make people responsible for taking advantage of it. don't dole out money and think we're solving anything significant

if I'm reading this right we agree about a lot of stuff (except, of course, hillary). how 'bout a what?/bird33 ticket in '08?

[BIRD33]

if I wasn't clear I'm against vouchers. is there a real education candidate that can get something done? (I'm really asking)

I also thought about the kids when I replied, but how do you get money to the kids? if the parents suck, giving them money isn't going to help the kids. then what? take the kids? I would guess that the 80% that would improve their lives if they could is high. why can't they? can they do your job? mine? no. can they clean the buildings we work in or flip our burgers? yeah, if they drag their asses to work, don't show up high, whatever. that's way too general I know but this is the land of opportunity, right? pour money into making opportunity, but make people responsible for taking advantage of it. don't dole out money and think we're solving anything significant

if I'm reading this right we agree about a lot of stuff (except, of course, hillary). how 'bout a what?/bird33 ticket in '08?

The education system broke down 30 years ago at least and you're now seeing in these asshole parents the fruits of that.I hear you on the the fact that people have to get off their ass to help themselves but if their role models are fucked up 90% of the time they themselves will be fucked up.Spending money on education and daycare so mothers can work won't fix it in the short term but a few generations from now you'll see a difference.Only democrats seem to recognize that.

How bout I run and you be my first lady?

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think the country is ready for a black dude at the top of the ticket, even if he spends his nights cuddling with and giving reach arounds to a redneck?