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    Another judge rules against the moritorium.



    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100901/...ill_moratorium

    A federal judge on Wednesday rejected the U.S. government's request to dismiss an industry lawsuit challenging its deepwater oil and gas drilling moratorium, dealing another blow to the Obama administration.

    Hornbeck Offshore Services Inc and other drilling companies sued the administration on June 7 after it first ordered a halt to deepwater drilling in the Gulf of Mexico following BP Plc's well rupture that killed 11 workers and caused the world's worst offshore oil spill.

    As a result of Louisiana-based Hornbeck's lawsuit, U.S. District Court Judge Martin Feldman in New Orleans blocked implementation of the drilling ban on June 22.

    The Obama administration then issued a reworked second drilling moratorium and asked that the Hornbeck lawsuit be thrown out because the first ban was no longer relevant.

    But in his 20-page ruling on Wednesday, Feldman said the administration's new moratorium offered "no substantial changes" from the first one, and denied the motion to dismiss the Hornbeck lawsuit.

    The original moratorium, which banned drilling below 500 feet for six months, was put on hold because Feldman found that the administration had failed to properly weigh the economic impact it would have on the industry and the surrounding communities.

    Hornbeck and the other companies also had questioned whether the Obama administration, through the Interior Department which oversees and regulates offshore drilling, could rescind the original moratorium, which was blocked by the court, and issue a second one.

    Feldman ruled that while the Interior Department could do so, he said the department had failed to follow proper procedures by seeking permission from the court since the original moratorium had been blocked.

    A Justice Department spokeswoman said the department was reviewing the decision.

    Another drilling company, Ensco Plc, has filed another lawsuit challenging the government's new moratorium, which bans until late November the use of deepwater drilling equipment similar to what was employed on the BP well.

    The Obama administration has defended its moratorium plans as necessary to provide the time needed to ensure that exploratory drilling was proceeding safely in light of the BP spill, which began in April.

    Deepwater drilling, newer than shallow-water drilling, is also riskier because the drill bit must bore through many more layers of rock and salt under more extreme pressures and temperatures.

    The case is Hornbeck Offshore Services LLC et al v Ken Salazar et al, U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Louisiana, No. 10-cv-01663.

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    I know you do but really nobody views this as Obama vs oil drilling.We had a huge natural disaster.Its prudent to slow up a little until we figure out how and why.Oil prices wont even be effected.Nobody is saying never drill again ever.
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    Its more about a judge telling the administration that they can not shut down an industry. We have slowed up alot. We haven't drilled in deeper than 500 feet since April. BP is at fault here. Their record shows they take short cuts. No other company has had anywhere near the problems that BP has.

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    Actually if they want the administration can shut down an industry.The airlines on 9\11 are a good example.

    Its nice to see you finally pointing blame where it belongs.The problem still is that drillings at that depth were ever ok'd in the first place and its going to take time for regulation to catch up with the industries actual capabilities.
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    Oil platform explosion reported in Gulf of Mexico

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/09/02/lou...ex.html?hpt=T1

    Jesus Christ.Wheres that Judge at?
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    There was no drilling or for that matter work over operations underway. Accident occurred under normal maintenance activity. The SCSSV's are downhole safety valves and all the SCSSV's worked as designed and SI the 7 producing wells to prevent a leak. It is suspected that the oil feeding the fire is from a storage tank on the platform. Any pollution is caused by the oil in the storage tanks on the platform.

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    Job Losses Over Drilling Ban Fail to Materialize

    Yet the worst of those forecasts has failed to materialize, as companies wait to see how long the moratorium will last before making critical decisions on spending cuts and layoffs. Unemployment claims related to the oil industry along the Gulf Coast have been in the hundreds, not the thousands, and while oil production from the gulf is down because of the drilling halt, supplies from the region are expected to rebound in future years. Only 2 of the 33 deepwater rigs operating in the gulf before the BP rig exploded have left for other fields.

    While it is too early to gauge the long-term environmental or economic effects of the release of 4.9 million barrels of oil into the gulf, it now appears that the direst predictions about the moratorium will not be borne out. Even the government’s estimate of the impact of the drilling pause — 23,000 lost jobs and $10.2 billion in economic damage — is proving to be too pessimistic.


    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/25/us/25drill.html




    So the costs of the moratorium have been minimal – much less than predicted – and already we’ve seen a second rig explode in the Gulf this year. The oil industry should realize by now that cleaning up after a disaster is a far more expensive, messy process than ensuring that it doesn’t happen in the first place. It’s also terrible PR. But, of course, the oil industry does not realize that. Until each rig is inspected and safety on these rigs is ensured, I don’t see how the government can do anything but impose a moratorium. Of course, activist judges think they know better. I wonder how many more spills and explosions need to occur before we implement sensible safety and precautionary measures in our oil rigs? Kicking the costs down the road until something really bad happens is certainly not the answer, even if it is the likely outcome even of a disaster the size and scope of the BP oil spill.

    Unlike the Deepwater Horizon, this explosion occurred in shallow water, operating at about 340 feet instead of 5,000 which makes any complications from a spill much more manageable. This, and the fact that no workers were killed, make up the story’s silver lining.



    http://www.balloon-juice.com/2010/09...ng-moratorium/
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    HA! I love the fact that these people don't know the difference between a rig and a platform.


    Did they bother to report what companies have done to ensure they won't have to layoff? I know most people have been transferred around the world for 3 to 6 months at a time. Imagine being say 35 with two kids and having to spend 6 weeks in Brazil to keep your job? But hey.. he still has a job so lets report that the loss is minimized.

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    Umm don't most people who get into the oil industry go in on the understanding that the wells they will work on won't be located in their back yard?Oh no I have to travel for work!Cry me a river.
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    pure ignorance.


    traveling is one thing. A 6 month hitch in Africa? A whole nother ball game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anhil8tor View Post
    pure ignorance.


    traveling is one thing. A 6 month hitch in Africa? A whole nother ball game.
    I know tons of people who have had to relocate for a job.You act so fucking entitled its pure fucking comedy.Don't like to travel?quit.
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    Hey dumb-asses.

    You don't slow up. You speed up and slow down.
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    Thats hilarious.No need for banning.You'll slowly realize the ass kicking you take here isnt worth it and will slink off only to return as a guest.Happens all the time.Enjoy your brief stay.

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    “We have made and continue to make significant progress in reducing the risks associated with deepwater drilling,” Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar said in announcing the end of the moratorium. Therefore, he said, “I have decided that it is now appropriate to lift the suspension on deepwater drilling for those operators that are able to clear the higher bar that we have set.”
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    :jackoff:

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    Remember how 8 was actually laying blame on Obama for not dropping a nuclear bomb on the gulf of mexico to stop the leak?Those were the days.

    Love him or hate him he took care of this shit in a timely manner.
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    until they start releasing permits the moratorium being lifted is just for publicity.

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    You realize nothing seems good enough for you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BIRD33 View Post
    You realize nothing seems good enough for you?
    Yeah I'm bitter. The moratorium was scheduled to be removed November 30th, which is after elections. I think he did it for publicity. Did you see momma obamas speech yesterday?

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    Vitter is handing Charlie Melancon his ass down here.... These are the ads Vitter is running


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    Quote Originally Posted by Anhil8tor View Post
    Yeah I'm bitter. The moratorium was scheduled to be removed November 30th, which is after elections. I think he did it for publicity. Did you see momma obamas speech yesterday?


    Its almost as if there is something about him.....his hair or some other physical characteristic that I can't put my finger on where no matter what he does you will not support him.

    I did not see his speech.

    Here's how the next 2 years will play out.The GOP will win a short term victory by maybe taking back the house.Things will look a little bleak for two weeks after that election for the democrats.Slowly the country will realize the GOP has been taken over by people who are along with being very angry about where the country is at are also certifiably insane and have no business running a country.Obama cruises to 15 to 20 point victory in 2012 over Mike fucking Huckabee.If you didnt like the direction Obama is going now wait until he doesnt have to worry about reelection.
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