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Health Care... - Anhil8tor - 03-19-2010
Lets hear it bird and clay...
You guys think this thing is going to past? You think this is gonna cement Obamamamama for a second term either way? Think the dems will gain house and senate seats?
Health Care... - squirt - 03-19-2010
Fuck, I hope it does not pass.
Health Care... - BIRD33 - 03-19-2010
Anybody who hopes it doesnt pass and is ok with the current system that burns through money is a total idiot.Anybody who thinks the republicans actually want to fix a broken system and arent bought and paid for by insurance companies is an idiot.
I think momentum is with it passing but who can be sure.
Obama is a lock for a second term either way.Who on the GOP side can you say with a straight face has a chance against a guy with his talents?You're talking about a once in a generation politician and you think Romney can handle him?
Dems will lose seats all over the place but that is cyclical.Polls will still show the Dems are more trusted.Its no secret the republicans presided over the biggest economic meltdown and bailout ever.
Health Care... - BIRD33 - 03-22-2010
How bout a little credit for your boy, 8?
Health Care... - Anhil8tor - 03-22-2010
congrats obama
Health Care... - JCW - 03-22-2010
I don't get it... why would anyone be AGAINST this bill? From what I understand (and correct me if I'm wrong), but you can still have your own private insurance if you're happy with it. This is an option for people who are self-employed, not offered insurance through their job, don't make enough to pay for private insurance, etc. What's to be against??
I haven't been paying that much attention to the particulars but anything that helps eliminate the instances of people losing their entire life savings because of an illness seems like a good thing. Maybe the haters here can explain to me where they're coming from. Or is this an issue of "we hate Obama on principle so we're going to shit on him trying to do something positive for the state of the US"?
Health Care... - BIRD33 - 03-22-2010
They think he's spending to much because of the deficit.They refuse to realize most of the spending he authorized was to bail us out of 8 years of GOP fiscal recklessness and a money pit called the iraq war.My company will get tax breaks for providing decent health care to our workers which since we are a small business you'd think the GOP would be all about but politics is a sport now and no matter what the GOP will not support the other side.
Health Care... - Anhil8tor - 03-22-2010
blame bush...
thats fine.
Health Care... - Anhil8tor - 03-22-2010
blame bush...
thats fine.
Health Care... - BIRD33 - 03-22-2010
8 is it a valid criticism that a lot of the spending in Obama's term is to fix or stave off disasters caused in Bush's 8 years?Yes or no?
Health Care... - bam - 03-22-2010
JCW, this is for you. It's a brief explanation of the bill.
Here are the answers to some of the most frequently asked questions:
I don't have health insurance, what does this mean for me?
By 2014, every American will be required to have some form of health insurance or will be forced to pay a fine. The first year's fine would be $95 or 1 percent of their income, whichever is higher. By the second year, however, fines could rise to as much as $695 a year. Families and people meeting certain income requirements ($14,404 for individuals and $29,326 for a family of four) would be exempt from paying the fine. These people may also be eligible for the federally and state-funded Medicaid insurance program that covers poor and disabled Americans under the age of 65.
One of the immediate changes that will take place is that young adults up to the age of 26 will be eligible to remain on their families' health insurance plans. Currently, the cut-off is 22 years old.
Can I buy insurance through the government?
The bill does not include a public option, meaning the government will not offer health care beyond Medicare and Medicaid. People under the age of 65 who make too much to qualify for Medicaid may be eligible to receive government subsidies to help them buy private health care from new state-based insurance "exchanges," which are scheduled to begin in 2014.
My employer does not currently offer insurance, will that change?
All employers will be required to offer their employees insurance by 2014. Companies with 25 or fewer employees would receive tax credits to help them pay for the insurance. The tax credits would cover about 35 percent of the insurance cost this year and would gradually increase to about 50 percent by 2014. Employers with 50 or more workers will be required to offer employees insurance or pay a fine of up to $2,000 a piece for full-time employees that are receiving government subsidies to buy insurance through state-based exchanges. The first 30 employees would be exempt from this fine.
How will this legislation affect senior citizens receiving Medicare?
Starting this year, all Medicare preventative services, such as cancer screenings, will be offered free of charge to senior citizens currently receiving Medicare. Also, people receiving Medicare Part D would receive an additional $250 this year to help them pay for medications that are not currently covered under the plan.
I have insurance, how will this affect me?
Under the plan, people who are currently ill may begin seeing their premiums shrink, as the bill does not allow insurers to charge higher premiums to people who are sick. Also, people with pre-existing conditions who change insurance companies, due to a change in job status or in employer coverage, cannot be denied coverage under the bill, nor can they be charged higher premiums.
How much will this cost and how is it being paid for?
The plan will cost an estimated $940 million. Congress and the president have said that most of it will be paid for through various tax increases on individuals that earn more than $250,000 a year, as well through decreases in Medicare reimbursements to doctors and hospitals. Critics, however, say tax increases to the wealthy and Medicare cuts will not be enough to fund health reform and that the middle class will eventually be forced to help pay for it through tax and fee increases.
Health Care... - bam - 03-22-2010
My wallet feels lighter, but man I feel healthy.
Health Care... - BIRD33 - 03-22-2010
bam Wrote:JCW, this is for you. It's a brief explanation of the bill.
Here are the answers to some of the most frequently asked questions:
I don't have health insurance, what does this mean for me?
By 2014, every American will be required to have some form of health insurance or will be forced to pay a fine. The first year's fine would be $95 or 1 percent of their income, whichever is higher. By the second year, however, fines could rise to as much as $695 a year. Families and people meeting certain income requirements ($14,404 for individuals and $29,326 for a family of four) would be exempt from paying the fine. These people may also be eligible for the federally and state-funded Medicaid insurance program that covers poor and disabled Americans under the age of 65.
One of the immediate changes that will take place is that young adults up to the age of 26 will be eligible to remain on their families' health insurance plans. Currently, the cut-off is 22 years old.
Can I buy insurance through the government?
The bill does not include a public option, meaning the government will not offer health care beyond Medicare and Medicaid. People under the age of 65 who make too much to qualify for Medicaid may be eligible to receive government subsidies to help them buy private health care from new state-based insurance "exchanges," which are scheduled to begin in 2014.
My employer does not currently offer insurance, will that change?
All employers will be required to offer their employees insurance by 2014. Companies with 25 or fewer employees would receive tax credits to help them pay for the insurance. The tax credits would cover about 35 percent of the insurance cost this year and would gradually increase to about 50 percent by 2014. Employers with 50 or more workers will be required to offer employees insurance or pay a fine of up to $2,000 a piece for full-time employees that are receiving government subsidies to buy insurance through state-based exchanges. The first 30 employees would be exempt from this fine.
How will this legislation affect senior citizens receiving Medicare?
Starting this year, all Medicare preventative services, such as cancer screenings, will be offered free of charge to senior citizens currently receiving Medicare. Also, people receiving Medicare Part D would receive an additional $250 this year to help them pay for medications that are not currently covered under the plan.
I have insurance, how will this affect me?
Under the plan, people who are currently ill may begin seeing their premiums shrink, as the bill does not allow insurers to charge higher premiums to people who are sick. Also, people with pre-existing conditions who change insurance companies, due to a change in job status or in employer coverage, cannot be denied coverage under the bill, nor can they be charged higher premiums.
How much will this cost and how is it being paid for?
The plan will cost an estimated $940 million. Congress and the president have said that most of it will be paid for through various tax increases on individuals that earn more than $250,000 a year, as well through decreases in Medicare reimbursements to doctors and hospitals. Critics, however, say tax increases to the wealthy and Medicare cuts will not be enough to fund health reform and that the middle class will eventually be forced to help pay for it through tax and fee increases.
Bam wheres the link for where you got this from?
Health Care... - Anhil8tor - 03-22-2010
http://news.yahoo.com/video/politics-15749652/18734121
Its funny how when a majority doesn't want something and it gets shoved down their throats they tend to frown upon that. I believe the dems will lost 100 or more total seats in the coming elections and Obamamama is one and done. Its not going to end well for America though. Alot of our freedoms will be taken before he is out of office.
I have a math question for you bird...
If I pay $2500 a year for my health insurance... and it is going down 3,000% not that the health care is passed..... what will I be paying? Also... can I purchase a better health care now before the adjustment or do I have to stay with what I have.
Health Care... - bam - 03-22-2010
http://www.aolhealth.com/2010/03/22/health-care-reform-what-it-means-to-you/?icid=main|main|dl1|link3|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aolhealth.com%2F2010%2F03%2F22%2Fhealth-care-reform-what-it-means-to-you%2F
Health Care... - bam - 03-22-2010
And I should clarify- it wasn't an explanation so much as it was answers to frequently asked questions.
Health Care... - BIRD33 - 03-22-2010
Anhil8tor Wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/video/politics-15749652/18734121
Its funny how when a majority doesn't want something and it gets shoved down their throats they tend to frown upon that. I believe the dems will lost 100 or more total seats in the coming elections and Obamamama is one and done. Its not going to end well for America though. Alot of our freedoms will be taken before he is out of office.
I have a math question for you bird...
If I pay $2500 a year for my health insurance... and it is going down 3,000% not that the health care is passed..... what will I be paying? Also... can I purchase a better health care now before the adjustment or do I have to stay with what I have.
#1 I'm not here to figure out your family's medical bills.Do it yourself.
#2 A majority of people want health care fixed.Thats part of how Obama got elected.Your vocal minority tea partiers are not a majority.
#3 name one freedom thats going to be taken away?Do you understand how ridiculous you sound when you say blanket statements like that?
Health Care... - Anhil8tor - 03-22-2010
[video=youtube;sgpnE9NtpYo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgpnE9NtpYo[/video]
This is huge!
Health Care... - bam - 03-22-2010
One thing I want to know is why the legislation wasn't changed to say that federal funds won't be used for abortion? Instead there is a promise of an Executive Order (which I do believe he'll do) to combat that portion of it. The thing about Executive Orders though is that they can be reversed. While I personally believe that you should have the right to choose, I don't believe in taxpayer dollars paying for abortions. That's one of my main concerns.
Health Care... - BIRD33 - 03-22-2010
Anhil8tor Wrote:[video=youtube;sgpnE9NtpYo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgpnE9NtpYo[/video]
This is huge!
8 I know for a fact my company benefits huge from the tax benefits small business's will gain from this which helps us expand and hire more people.How is this a bad thing again?Werent the republicans the party of small business's?You've got nothing but talk radio talking points that once you scratch the surface on their dire predictions they fall away.