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states consider drug tests for welfare recipients - WoolyGoat - 03-26-2009
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,510707,00.html
good idea or bad?
states consider drug tests for welfare recipients - Anhil8tor - 03-26-2009
Great idea.
If you can't find a job.. don't sit him and get high.
states consider drug tests for welfare recipients - WoolyGoat - 03-26-2009
I agree.
Needless to say, Bird will surely defend his "right" to sit home and smoke weed all day.
states consider drug tests for welfare recipients - BIRD33 - 03-26-2009
Its a good thing you guys don't stereotype people.
states consider drug tests for welfare recipients - Anhil8tor - 03-26-2009
While they are at it why not put some kind of stipulation on how many jobs they should apply for in a month to continue to receive gov't funding.
states consider drug tests for welfare recipients - BIRD33 - 03-26-2009
I'm just wondering where you put these people when their benefits run out?Its cool to be all hard and tough guy like because you want a medal for going to work but what about the reality of the situation?What happens when crime rises as a result of basically putting these people out on the street?Who will you blame then?
states consider drug tests for welfare recipients - WoolyGoat - 03-26-2009
Anhil8tor Wrote:While they are at it why not put some kind of stipulation on how many jobs they should apply for in a month to continue to receive gov't funding.in massachusetts you have to make at least 3 "work contacts" each week.
states consider drug tests for welfare recipients - WoolyGoat - 03-26-2009
BIRD33 Wrote:I'm just wondering where you put these people when their benefits run out?Its cool to be all hard and tough guy like because you want a medal for going to work but what about the reality of the situation?What happens when crime rises as a result of basically putting these people out on the street?Who will you blame then?the people committing the crimes?
states consider drug tests for welfare recipients - BIRD33 - 03-26-2009
Is it cheaper to give them welfare or house them in prison?
states consider drug tests for welfare recipients - BIRD33 - 03-26-2009
Don't forget about child services to take care of their kids.
states consider drug tests for welfare recipients - WoolyGoat - 03-26-2009
so drug use is the only thing keeping these people out of jail?
states consider drug tests for welfare recipients - BIRD33 - 03-26-2009
Whats the difference from buying weed and having a doctor write a prescription for pills middle to upper class people don't even need?Every social class has drug problems its just if you're white there are ways to make it legitimate.
states consider drug tests for welfare recipients - WoolyGoat - 03-26-2009
I'm not a drug user, but I know you are. Despite being illegal, it doesn't bother me that you choose to use YOUR presumably hard earned money to buy pot. It's your money and if you choose to spend it that way, that's your decision. The same goes for "middle to upper middle class people" using prescription pills.
I just think it's different when people are using MY money to buy drugs. If you're collecting taxpayer money you shouldn't have the right to blow it on drugs.
states consider drug tests for welfare recipients - BIRD33 - 03-26-2009
You know you can't enforce that.If you consider yourself conservative I don't understand how you want the government piss testing hundreds of thousands of people.I get what you're saying but its not realistic and is just chest thumping over the weakest people in our society.
states consider drug tests for welfare recipients - WoolyGoat - 03-26-2009
saying "it's not realistic" is a much stronger argument (and probably a valid one) than arguing people should be allowed to use drugs so they don't commit crimes. that's just absurd.
states consider drug tests for welfare recipients - BIRD33 - 03-26-2009
People should be allowed to use drugs in the same fashion as the people in higher social classes do.My point may sound absurd but in the streets as we brothers say there are very few outlets for the frustration of living in a economically depressed area and the alternative to getting high is possibly crime.Sad but true.
states consider drug tests for welfare recipients - WoolyGoat - 03-26-2009
again, that's fine if they're using their own money. using government handouts to feed drug habits is nothing short of a complete waste of public help.
states consider drug tests for welfare recipients - BIRD33 - 03-26-2009
Welfare is a loss leader from the get go.The gain is less crime and someone to raise their kids besides the state.Should we test for nicotine too?Thats probably as destructive as smoking weed since it leads to health problems we all have to pick the cost up on.Worrying how they spent the money is as pointless as wondering why they havent found a job yet.Just get comfortable with that spending because unless you have some magic plan to cure mental illness and human laziness or don't care about a huge jump in crime and homelessness then there is nothing that can be done.Living on welfare is a miserable existence.
states consider drug tests for welfare recipients - WoolyGoat - 03-26-2009
I'm pretty sure that government subsidized weed is a big part of curing human laziness.
states consider drug tests for welfare recipients - BIRD33 - 03-26-2009
The problem might be is you think you can cure those people.