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Fuck the Muslims, its the Chinese! - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 08-07-2008

Wow, saw a great story on China last night. Apparently they are quietly taking over the world. It is seriously insane. I know in my business that the past several years they keep blaming every single price increase on the Chinese. I thought it was just bullshit to raise prices.

But that country is exploding. All of those billions of people that we have always heard about are now deciding to buy stuff. And the money is coming from poor countries that have oil or resources to use as payment for construction projects and work for chinese workers. Then they take the money back to China and buy cars or food or clothes or indoor plumbing or things they never had before.

They said that with the number of Chinese people they have in that country, if they all decided to consume like we do in the US (not more just the same as we do per person) that it would take another planet the size of the earth to supply the resources that would require.

The only good news is that China can never nuke us or anything because without our consumption of their cheap products, they could not survive.

Fuck the Muslims, its the Chinese! - BIRD33 - 08-07-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Wow, saw a great story on China last night. Apparently they are quietly taking over the world. It is seriously insane. I know in my business that the past several years they keep blaming every single price increase on the Chinese. I thought it was just bullshit to raise prices.

But that country is exploding. All of those billions of people that we have always heard about are now deciding to buy stuff. And the money is coming from poor countries that have oil or resources to use as payment for construction projects and work for chinese workers. Then they take the money back to China and buy cars or food or clothes or indoor plumbing or things they never had before.

They said that with the number of Chinese people they have in that country, if they all decided to consume like we do in the US (not more just the same as we do per person) that it would take another planet the size of the earth to supply the resources that would require.

The only good news is that China can never nuke us or anything because without our consumption of their cheap products, they could not survive.


My industry too has been hit by price increases because of the outrageous demand for scrap metal due to the chinese consuming a large amount of it for the building up of their infrastructure.On the flip side we've also had to do some price decreases on shit we had a lock on for years because of Chinese imports flooding our market.

You need to remember about china that although they are turning into a modern superpower 75% of their billion people live on farmland and in conditions similar to our 19th century so there is no chance they will all the sudden decide to consume like we do.

I disagree with them not nuking us.For us it would be the apocalypse but if we nuked them it would just be a means of population control for China.They would survive somehow without our money.

Fuck the Muslims, its the Chinese! - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 08-07-2008

Well, actually its a much bigger problem than I realized. They aren't importing all of this stuff into their country to consume.

Take Angola for example. After the war over there, their country was begging for loans from the west. The US was going to loan them money but had so many stipulations on it that they couldn't agree to it. The Chinese came in and loaned them $2 billion with relatively no conditions (they said that the people should decide how to govern themselves and China didn't want to dictate that to them).

But, in return for the loan, China gets cheap oil from them. They also get 70% of the government reconstruction projects. They say that more people speak Chinese there now then their own language. Chinese construction companies are going apeshit there. And most of the workforce are Chinese workers that have gone there for jobs. And when they finish, they bring all that money back to China.

Same thing in Brazil. Brazil is about to become the largest exporter of soybeans on the planet (a title the US used to hold). Who is buying their soybeans? Chinese. They said that just 10 years ago China could produce enough soybeans for themselves. Now the import billions of tons from Brazil. Brazil is even cutting down their rainforests to make more farmland. Millions and millions of acres of soybeans.

The Chinese are practically running the country of Cambodia now. All of the reconstruction work in Cambodia is being done by Chinese contractors. Cambodians are lining up to go to Chinese language schools. The kids idolize China like people used to idolize the US. And the funny thing is, the Chinese were the ones funding and supplying the Moulan Rouge with the weapons they used to practically destroy Cambodia. And that wasn't that long ago. But apparantly, this new quality of life the Chinese are bringing is enough to make them forget that. What do the Chinese get from Cambodia in exchange for the money they are spending to rebuild it? Cheap labor. Tons of it. And they are exploiting the shit out of it.

They said that the growth of China economically and industrially right now is so huge, that it can only be compared to one other event in recent history, and that was the growth of the US when it surpassed Britain in economic strenth a hundred years ago or so.

And you don't even want to know what the trade deficit is between the US and China.

Fuck the Muslims, its the Chinese! - BIRD33 - 08-08-2008

We are setting them up to be the super power in 100 years.I'm glad I'll be dead.

Fuck the Muslims, its the Chinese! - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 08-08-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:We are setting them up to be the super power in 100 years.I'm glad I'll be dead.

I'm really not sure if you are wrapping your mind around the enormity of this problem. It really is staggering to see what all they are doing. And prices for everything that we use are going to be more and more affected by them. We've only seen the tip of the iceberg.

I hope that they are building a house of cards similar to what the Japanese tried to do 20 or 30 years ago. I just don't see how you can build an economy that quickly.

But, one thing they are doing is trading money and labor for commodities, like oil and food. And they are getting them at a huge discount to world prices.

Oh, and they are buying the shit out of US bonds. Our national debt is so out of whack in their hands right now.

Fuck the Muslims, its the Chinese! - quint - 08-08-2008

you'll begin to see us increase taxes and tariffs

Fuck the Muslims, its the Chinese! - snarg - 08-08-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:.
....ones funding andsupplying the Moulan Rouge with the weapons they used to practically destroy Cambodia. And that wasn't that long ago. But apparantly, this new quality of life the Chines.


:loool:

Fuck the Muslims, its the Chinese! - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 08-08-2008

snarg Wrote::loool:

Did i misspell it? Or is it Kamir Rouge? fuck i don't know. it was a TV show.

Fuck the Muslims, its the Chinese! - snarg - 08-08-2008

khmer
yours is a misspelled movie
made my day, thanks flumpy

Fuck the Muslims, its the Chinese! - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 08-08-2008

snarg Wrote:khmer
yours is a misspelled movie
made my day, thanks flumpy

Friends again?

Fuck the Muslims, its the Chinese! - snarg - 08-08-2008

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Friends again?

:ct: