Obama Big in SC - Banana - 01-28-2008
Flumper....thoughts on this?
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Flumper Barflusterbutt - 01-28-2008
i guess i'm acutally going to have to study up on him and his fucktard message. Looks like he might pull this off. I hate this election.
Obama Big in SC - ntype - 01-28-2008
hopefully you'll put someone in charge who hasn't burnt his brain with cocaine and cheap whiskey
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BIRD33 - 01-28-2008
Clintons going to win the nomination.
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Flumper Barflusterbutt - 01-28-2008
BIRD33 Wrote:Clintons going to win the nomination.
You really think so? I think she's going to have a major meltdown before its over. I heard today that Ted Kennedy snubbed her.
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BIRD33 - 01-28-2008
Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:You really think so? I think she's going to have a major meltdown before its over. I heard today that Ted Kennedy snubbed her.
I'm not sure how much an effect Kennedy will have.She's going to get 75% of white women and if she gets the latino vote that will counteract the black vote going obama.In california she's up 12% on him and New York she's in the lead.Feb 5th will tell the story.If he wins California he'll win the whole thing.
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Flumper Barflusterbutt - 01-28-2008
BIRD33 Wrote:I'm not sure how much an effect Kennedy will have.She's going to get 75% of white women and if she gets the latino vote that will counteract the black vote going obama.In california she's up 12% on him and New York she's in the lead.Feb 5th will tell the story.If he wins California he'll win the whole thing.
I can't get past that little crying episode she pulled after iowa. If it was staged, then who knows, but if there was anything genuine about that, then she is going to have a mental breakdown before its over.
I have not been following their debates at all, so I have nothing to judge either one by except media coverage. It just seems like Obama has got some pretty good momentum going right now.
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BIRD33 - 01-28-2008
Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:I can't get past that little crying episode she pulled after iowa. If it was staged, then who knows, but if there was anything genuine about that, then she is going to have a mental breakdown before its over.
I have not been following their debates at all, so I have nothing to judge either one by except media coverage. It just seems like Obama has got some pretty good momentum going right now.
The crying helped her and was probably calculated.She's been in the fire for 15 years so I don't see her breaking down anytime soon.Obama does have the momentum but Bill Clinton basically said it was because of all the black voters in South Carolina and he could be right.New York and California are the most important states as far as delegates go so he needs to take one of those.If Edwards would drop out already a lot of his votes would go obama and I'd feel more confident but you can't underestimate the political machine the Clintons have built.They've been preparing for this for way to long to let this slip through their fingers.
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Flumper Barflusterbutt - 01-28-2008
BIRD33 Wrote:The crying helped her and was probably calculated.She's been in the fire for 15 years so I don't see her breaking down anytime soon.Obama does have the momentum but Bill Clinton basically said it was because of all the black voters in South Carolina and he could be right.New York and California are the most important states as far as delegates go so he needs to take one of those.If Edwards would drop out already a lot of his votes would go obama and I'd feel more confident but you can't underestimate the political machine the Clintons have built.They've been preparing for this for way to long to let this slip through their fingers.
Yeah, surely they have an overall plan that is much more thought out than Obama. Obama is too young and new to all of this to pull off anything more than a Jimmy Carter style grass roots campaign. But, you can never underestimate that style of campaign. Like you said, all it takes is for him to pull in one of the big delegate states and the Clinton machine could begin to fall apart.
For Edwards to drop out, he is going to want something. Something big. But he's already proven to not be much help as a VP running mate. So not sure what Obama could promise him that would swing his dropping out and his support.
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BIRD33 - 01-28-2008
Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Yeah, surely they have an overall plan that is much more thought out than Obama. Obama is too young and new to all of this to pull off anything more than a Jimmy Carter style grass roots campaign. But, you can never underestimate that style of campaign. Like you said, all it takes is for him to pull in one of the big delegate states and the Clinton machine could begin to fall apart.
For Edwards to drop out, he is going to want something. Something big. But he's already proven to not be much help as a VP running mate. So not sure what Obama could promise him that would swing his dropping out and his support.
I don't know,Obama's got some big time donors and supporters.Clinton was favored in Iowa and she ended up getting destroyed so for all we know he could be in the lead in some of the bigger states.Edwards will get a cabinet position from whoever gets the nomination.I think Edwards will endorse Obama just to stick it to the Clintons.You're seeing how the Democratic party is spit down the middle into two camps, one clinton people and the other people looking to move forward.If obama can get latino's he'll lock the whole thing up.
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Flumper Barflusterbutt - 01-28-2008
BIRD33 Wrote:I don't know,Obama's got some big time donors and supporters.Clinton was favored in Iowa and she ended up getting destroyed so for all we know he could be in the lead in some of the bigger states.Edwards will get a cabinet position from whoever gets the nomination.I think Edwards will endorse Obama just to stick it to the Clintons.You're seeing how the Democratic party is spit down the middle into two camps, one clinton people and the other people looking to move forward.If obama can get latino's he'll lock the whole thing up.
From what I am hearing, Obama also has the "youth" vote. Problem is, they never show up to actually vote. Every election they say they are going to turn out, but never actually do.