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Nancy Pelosi - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 11-09-2006

...sounds like a bitch. I don't know much about her, but she's acting way too cocky for someone that is moving into the job she is apparantly going to get.

Nancy Pelosi - BIRD33 - 11-09-2006

I find it ironic you have a problem with her being cocky and not the leader of the free world being cocky and leading us into a catastrophe.

You said it best when you said you don't know much about her.Lets see what she does.

Would you not agree that what happened on election day was good for the country?I know it was a republican massacre but don't you think the will of the people was served and the current admin was out of touch with what normal people think?

Nancy Pelosi - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 11-09-2006

BIRD33 Wrote:I find it ironic you have a problem with her being cocky and not the leader of the free world being cocky and leading us into a catastrophe.

You said it best when you said you don't know much about her.Lets see what she does.

Would you not agree that what happened on election day was good for the country?I know it was a republican massacre but don't you think the will of the people was served and the current admin was out of touch with what normal people think?

I don't have a problem with what happened on election day. I'm pretty good with results of elections and this one didn't seem that big of a suprise.

History shows that the control of congress shifts about every 14 years. It was time, and the second half of a second term president is ripe for that to happen.

I guess if anything suprised me it was the timing of the Rumsfield departure. That should have been done a month ago. We all know the decision was made prior to election day and that could have had an impact on the election. I don't know why they waited until the day after.

Now, as far as Pelosi, I do know some about her. I've seen her interviewed several times in the past few days and have heard her name for years as an outspoken liberal. She said last night that we just need to leave Iraq. Just like it is. Just walk away from it.

Nancy Pelosi - Sassy - 11-09-2006

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:I don't have a problem with what happened on election day. I'm pretty good with results of elections and this one didn't seem that big of a suprise.

History shows that the control of congress shifts about every 14 years. It was time, and the second half of a second term president is ripe for that to happen.

I guess if anything suprised me it was the timing of the Rumsfield departure. That should have been done a month ago. We all know the decision was made prior to election day and that could have had an impact on the election. I don't know why they waited until the day after.

Now, as far as Pelosi, I do know some about her. I've seen her interviewed several times in the past few days and have heard her name for years as an outspoken liberal. She said last night that we just need to leave Iraq. Just like it is. Just walk away from it.
Do you know anyone who has problem with what happened on election day.I know you are good.Pretty soon.What made it so time and the second half of a second term president is ripe for that to happenThat is a hypothetical question."Oh yes we were talking about
her but she is acting way too cocky for someone that is moving into the job she is apparantly going to get" should have been done a month ago ?
I get

Oh yes we were talking about
her but she is acting way too cocky for someone that is moving into the job she is apparantly going to get

. By "we" do you mean you and me?
You have to speak more clearly.
Why now? That might not be very far off.What did it look like to you?Really. "Oh yes we were talking about
her but she is acting way too cocky for someone that is moving into the job she is apparantly going to get" we just need to leave Iraq ?
Makes sense to me. In many ways, yes. In other ways, no."it" being The explanation?

Nancy Pelosi - BIRD33 - 11-09-2006

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:I don't have a problem with what happened on election day. I'm pretty good with results of elections and this one didn't seem that big of a suprise.

History shows that the control of congress shifts about every 14 years. It was time, and the second half of a second term president is ripe for that to happen.

I guess if anything suprised me it was the timing of the Rumsfield departure. That should have been done a month ago. We all know the decision was made prior to election day and that could have had an impact on the election. I don't know why they waited until the day after.

Now, as far as Pelosi, I do know some about her. I've seen her interviewed several times in the past few days and have heard her name for years as an outspoken liberal. She said last night that we just need to leave Iraq. Just like it is. Just walk away from it.


With a good economy its almost unheard of for the majority to lose as many seats in a mid term election. It sounds like the Limbaugh\Hannity spin that this was bound to happen because its the second term for the president etc.. but that doesnt jive with the exit polls showing 90% of people made their vote for Dems with Iraq as the number #1 along with the corruption issue and approval ratings for the war and the president at the mid 30 percentile.

If there was no Iraq republicans would have at least held the senate and maybe the house as well.This was more than the 14 year itch, it was a absolute rejection of the bush administration policies.House members who werent touched by corruption and generally served thier district well lost for no other reason than that.Fitzpatrick in my area generally did a decent job and he lost to a guy with zero experience at all and nobody saw it coming.

How stupid was it for Bush to keep Rumsfeld up to the election?That along with Cheyney saying two weeks ago that no matter how the elections turn out its "full speed ahead in Iraq" were the dumbest political moves Ive seen in a while.

Pelosi isnt the only one saying we need to leave Iraq.What do you think it means when republicans come back from iraq and say we seriously need to look at strategic redeployment?We are going to leave Iraq in bad shape no matter if we leave tommorow or 2 years from now.It was a fucked up decision with little thoughts of how to get it done or the consequences of what could happen.My question is how many Americans do you want to see die to make a fucked up situation in a forein country that we cant control slightly better?

Nancy Pelosi - Sassy - 11-09-2006

BIRD33 Wrote:With a good economy its almost unheard of for the majority to lose as many seats in a mid term election. It sounds like the Limbaugh\Hannity spin that this was bound to happen because its the second term for the president etc.. but that doesnt jive with the exit polls showing 90% of people made their vote for Dems with Iraq as the number #1 along with the corruption issue and approval ratings for the war and the president at the mid 30 percentile.

If there was no Iraq republicans would have at least held the senate and maybe the house as well.This was more than the 14 year itch, it was a absolute rejection of the bush administration policies.House members who werent touched by corruption and generally served thier district well lost for no other reason than that.Fitzpatrick in my area generally did a decent job and he lost to a guy with zero experience at all and nobody saw it coming.

How stupid was it for Bush to keep Rumsfeld up to the election?That along with Cheyney saying two weeks ago that no matter how the elections turn out its "full speed ahead in Iraq" were the dumbest political moves Ive seen in a while.

Pelosi isnt the only one saying we need to leave Iraq.What do you think it means when republicans come back from iraq and say we seriously need to look at strategic redeployment?We are going to leave Iraq in bad shape no matter if we leave tommorow or 2 years from now.It was a fucked up decision with little thoughts of how to get it done or the consequences of what could happen.My question is how many Americans do you want to see die to make a fucked up situation in a forein country that we cant control slightly better?
You and your a good economy its almost unheard of for the majority to lose as many seats in a mid term election.Oh really what does the LimbaughHannity spin that this was bound to happen because its the second term for the president etc sound like?Huh.
What does jive with the exit polls showing 90% of people made their vote for Dems with Iraq as the number #1 along with the corruption issue and approval ratings for the war and the president at the mid 30 percentile?If there ever is, I will let you know.What does "this" refer to?Does "it" still refer to the LimbaughHannity spin that this was bound to happen because its the second term for the president etc?
My brain contains 43347 categories, but not one that matches your last input.
What is it to you.

I have never been asked that before."Very interesting" along with Cheyney saying two weeks ago that no matter how the elections turn out its full speed ahead in Iraq were the dumbest political moves he or she have seen in a while ?
I understand. Who is the only one saying we need to leave Iraq?
"It" refers to Pelosi, I think.Oh.
Do you think I am going to leave Iraq in bad shape no matter if we leave tommorow or 2 years from too?Oh I get it. Very interesting.About one million.

Nancy Pelosi - Anhil8tor - 11-09-2006

How about Butch Davis getting hired at North Carolina?

I think that puts UNC in the top five of the greatest football/basketball coaching duo...

Nancy Pelosi - BIRD33 - 11-09-2006

Anhil8tor Wrote:How about Butch Davis getting hired at North Carolina?

I think that puts UNC in the top five of the greatest football/basketball coaching duo...


I thought Davis could do better.I'm not saying UNC is a bad job but he'll always be overshadowed by the Basketball.

I generally don't like Steve Spurrier but I think its cool he gives Duke a vote for #1 in the coaches poll every year out of respect.

Nancy Pelosi - Vitamin E - 11-09-2006

BIRD33 Wrote:I thought Davis could do better.I'm not saying UNC is a bad job but he'll always be overshadowed by the Basketball.

I generally don't like Steve Spurrier but I think its cool he gives Duke a vote for #1 in the coaches poll every year out of respect.

that was all I read.

Nancy Pelosi - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 11-09-2006

BIRD33 Wrote:With a good economy its almost unheard of for the majority to lose as many seats in a mid term election. It sounds like the Limbaugh\Hannity spin that this was bound to happen because its the second term for the president etc.. but that doesnt jive with the exit polls showing 90% of people made their vote for Dems with Iraq as the number #1 along with the corruption issue and approval ratings for the war and the president at the mid 30 percentile.

If there was no Iraq republicans would have at least held the senate and maybe the house as well.This was more than the 14 year itch, it was a absolute rejection of the bush administration policies.House members who werent touched by corruption and generally served thier district well lost for no other reason than that.Fitzpatrick in my area generally did a decent job and he lost to a guy with zero experience at all and nobody saw it coming.

How stupid was it for Bush to keep Rumsfeld up to the election?That along with Cheyney saying two weeks ago that no matter how the elections turn out its "full speed ahead in Iraq" were the dumbest political moves Ive seen in a while.

Pelosi isnt the only one saying we need to leave Iraq.What do you think it means when republicans come back from iraq and say we seriously need to look at strategic redeployment?We are going to leave Iraq in bad shape no matter if we leave tommorow or 2 years from now.It was a fucked up decision with little thoughts of how to get it done or the consequences of what could happen.My question is how many Americans do you want to see die to make a fucked up situation in a forein country that we cant control slightly better?

I'm pretty sure it was about this point in Clinton's legacy that he was denying getting his dick sucked in the oval office. Not that I have a problem with that, I just don't get all kamakazi every time the masses try to turn the tables on a guy. Right now its cool to be in the crowd that never thought we should have gone into Iraq. I remember when it was just the opposite.

In a few years it won't be cool to be part of the "fuck them and leave" crowd.

Nancy Pelosi - BIRD33 - 11-09-2006

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:I'm pretty sure it was about this point in Clinton's legacy that he was denying getting his dick sucked in the oval office. Not that I have a problem with that, I just don't get all kamakazi every time the masses try to turn the tables on a guy. Right now its cool to be in the crowd that never thought we should have gone into Iraq. I remember when it was just the opposite.

In a few years it won't be cool to be part of the "fuck them and leave" crowd.


Clinton lost only a 1\3 of the seats the GOP did the other day and at the time he was getting impeached his approval rating was still above 60%.

I agree it was the cool macho camp to be in that wanted to invade Iraq going into the war, its called hubris.I don't think Americans waking up to the reality that our people are dying by the 1000's in a war that was not well thought out is neccasarily trying to be cool, its more a common sense thing.

Its like bizzaro world when republicans want to be the worlds police and Dems are preaching an isolationist approach.Darfur seems pretty fucked up but why no outrage on the GOP side about it?Answer:No oil in darfur.

Nancy Pelosi - Sassy - 11-09-2006

BIRD33 Wrote:Clinton lost only a 1\3 of the seats the GOP did the other day and at the time he was getting impeached and his approval rating was still above 60%.

I agree it was the cool macho camp to be in that wanted to invade Iraq going into the war, its called hubris.I don't think Americans waking up to the reality that our people are dying by the 1000's in a war that was not well thought out is neccasarily trying to be cool, its more a common sense thing.

Its like bizzaro world when republicans want to be the worlds police and Dems are preaching an isolationist approach.Darfur seems pretty fucked up but why no outrage on the GOP side about it?Answer:No oil in darfur.
This is
true. I'm glad we agree. jpg was the cool macho camp to be in that wanted to invade Iraq going into the war its called hubris? Very interesting.And why not?I think you mean "it's" or "it is" not "its". Interesting comparison."it" being jpg?How old are you?

Nancy Pelosi - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 11-09-2006

BIRD33 Wrote:Clinton lost only a 1\3 of the seats the GOP did the other day and at the time he was getting impeached his approval rating was still above 60%.

I agree it was the cool macho camp to be in that wanted to invade Iraq going into the war, its called hubris.I don't think Americans waking up to the reality that our people are dying by the 1000's in a war that was not well thought out is neccasarily trying to be cool, its more a common sense thing.

Its like bizzaro world when republicans want to be the worlds police and Dems are preaching an isolationist approach.Darfur seems pretty fucked up but why no outrage on the GOP side about it?Answer:No oil in darfur.

Do you know how many Iraqi Kurds Saddam killed in the Anfal campaign? An estimated 180,000. That was just one instance of his crimes against his own people.

And, that is just one of the charges against him on a list of dozens.

Nancy Pelosi - BIRD33 - 11-09-2006

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Do you know how many Iraqi Kurds Saddam killed in the Anfal campaign? An estimated 180,000. That was just one instance of his crimes against his own people.

And, that is just one of the charges against him on a list of dozens.


Kim Jong Il has killed more of his own people than saddam.Its a fact.We can't liberate every country with an evil dictator,we went to Iraq to stop them from making WMD's remember?Constantly changing rationale for the war is the reason nobody trusts bush.

Nancy Pelosi - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 11-09-2006

BIRD33 Wrote:Kim Jong Il has killed more of his own people than saddam.Its a fact.We can't liberate every country with an evil dictator,we went to Iraq to stop them from making WMD's remember?Constantly changing rationale for the war is the reason nobody trusts bush.

So you only remember one reason why we went into Iraq? This is a prime example of the liberals and their hunt and peck way of remembering events. Pick out the ones that work for your conspiracy theories and throw all the facts out.

Nancy Pelosi - BIRD33 - 11-09-2006

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:So you only remember one reason why we went into Iraq? This is a prime example of the liberals and their hunt and peck way of remembering events. Pick out the ones that work for your conspiracy theories and throw all the facts out.


Excuse me for being a nit picker when americans are dying for a stupid cause that you can't even fully explain what winning would mean.

WMD's was the reason we went.That fell apart now we are liberating a oppressed country even though we would never do that for any other country ever.It wasnt just liberals who agree with my assesment judging from approval ratings and election results.You are in the 30% kool aid drinker demographic.

Nancy Pelosi - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 11-09-2006

BIRD33 Wrote:Excuse me for being a nit picker when americans are dying for a stupid cause that you can't even fully explain what winning would mean.

WMD's was the reason we went.That fell apart now we are liberating a oppressed country even though we would never do that for any other country ever.It wasnt just liberals who agree with my assesment judging from approval ratings and election results.You are in the 30% kool aid drinker demographic.

Um. We weren't liberating an opporessed country exactly. We were taking a fuckhead out of power that violated treaties against us, openly paid for terrorist suicide bombers, shot at our airplanes nearly daily, attacked neighboring countries without provoke, used wmd's against other countries and against his own people, repeatedly violated UN sanctions and inspections, and basically shot us the finger after signing a peace treaty after the first Gulf War. Throw in an assasination attempt against our former President and a few other things and you might start remembering the reasons we took him out of power.

But, if you want to limit it to "wmd's" then join the "here's what we think today" liberal band wagon.

Nancy Pelosi - Tribal Dragon - 11-10-2006

Suck it Bitch!!!

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Nancy Pelosi - BIRD33 - 11-10-2006

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Um. We weren't liberating an opporessed country exactly. We were taking a fuckhead out of power that violated treaties against us, openly paid for terrorist suicide bombers, shot at our airplanes nearly daily, attacked neighboring countries without provoke, used wmd's against other countries and against his own people, repeatedly violated UN sanctions and inspections, and basically shot us the finger after signing a peace treaty after the first Gulf War. Throw in an assasination attempt against our former President and a few other things and you might start remembering the reasons we took him out of power.

But, if you want to limit it to "wmd's" then join the "here's what we think today" liberal band wagon.


What WMD's did saddam use on another country?Saudia Arabia pays suicide bombers families as well but I wonder why we let that slide.Explain why we let N korea violate sanctions but don't invade?Bush himself said Saddam plotting to assisinate Bush Sr. had nothing to do with invading so what are you talking about in regards to that?

I'm not joining any band wagon.I called it a huge mistake before we invaded while you were waving your flag and singing along to toby kieth all the while not understanding what you were supporting.How does it feel to know that a dumbass like me has been right about this the whole time and you've been played by the same people you've pledged your undying support to?

Nancy Pelosi - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 11-10-2006

BIRD33 Wrote:What WMD's did saddam use on another country?Saudia Arabia pays suicide bombers families as well but I wonder why we let that slide.Explain why we let N korea violate sanctions but don't invade?Bush himself said Saddam plotting to assisinate Bush Sr. had nothing to do with invading so what are you talking about in regards to that?

I'm not joining any band wagon.I called it a huge mistake before we invaded while you were waving your flag and singing along to toby kieth all the while not understanding what you were supporting.How does it feel to know that a dumbass like me has been right about this the whole time and you've been played by the same people you've pledged your undying support to?

Are you so stupid as to not know that Saddam used an incredible amount of chemical weapons against the Iranians during the 8 year war they had? Surely you aren't that big of a dumbass.

I didn't say that Saddam attempting to assassinate a former US president was "the" reason that we went to war. I listed many reasons and only threw that in as an additional reason if anyone wanted to add it to the list. I know that Bush has said repeatedly that had nothing to do with it.

The problem is, you can take a list of reasons that we had to get rid of Saddam and pick out one thing and apply it to Saudi Arabia, or you can pick out one other thing and apply it to North Korea, or Sudan or Syria or whoever you want, but the fact is that we had all of those reasons to take out Saddam. The guy was a huge threat in the Middle East and had been for many years. He had always been in the business of stockpiling wmd's and openly bragged about the weapons he possessed.

I'll agree that his real threat was confined to the Middle East, more so to his weak neighbors to his south, but you'd have to have been in a coma for the past 50 years to not know the importance of the Middle East and its stability and how that relates to the United States.