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How long before shit gets outta control with North Korea? - Bill - 10-11-2006
They know we are spread thin and in neck deep in iraq...so they say if we don't lay off our hostal attitude they will declare war on the US? Why is it that we seem to be the scape goat in their nuclear test, when the whole world is pissed off at them?
How long before shit gets outta control with North Korea? - BIRD33 - 10-11-2006
Shenanigans Wrote:They know we are spread thin and in neck deep in iraq...so they say if we don't lay off our hostal attitude they will declare war on the US? Why is it that we seem to be the scape goat in their nuclear test, when the whole world is pissed off at them?
Probably because technically we still are involved with a war with them since the Korean war never had a peace treaty and the fact we have 30,000 troops stationed at their border.Say what you want about Clinton but the Koreans have 400% more nuclear bomb grade material and 4 or 5 more bombs since Bush came into office.They are taking advantage of our mistake of going to Iraq.
How long before shit gets outta control with North Korea? - Sassy - 10-11-2006
BIRD33 Wrote:You seem uncertain. Good reason.Shenanigans Wrote:They know we are spread thin and in neck deep in iraq...so they say if we don't lay off our hostal attitude they will declare war on the US? Why is it that we seem to be the scape goat in their nuclear test, when the whole world is pissed off at them?
Probably because technically we still are involved with a war with them since the Koreon war never had a peace treaty and the fact we have 30,000 troops stationed at their border.Say what you want about Clinton but the Koreons have 400% more nuclear bomb grade material and 4 or 5 more bombs since Bush came into office.They are taking advantage of our mistake of going to Iraq.
By "we" do you mean you and me?"what you want about Clinton but the Koreons have 400% more nuclear bomb grade material and 4 or 5 more bombs since Bush came into office" are
.
How long before shit gets outta control with North Korea? - what? - 10-11-2006
this would be better as a poll.
less than a week
1 week - 1 month
1 - 3 months
4 - 6 months
over 6 months
vote!
How long before shit gets outta control with North Korea? - what? - 10-11-2006
Sassy Wrote:You seem uncertain. Good reason.
By "we" do you mean you and me?"what you want about Clinton but the Koreons have 400% more nuclear bomb grade material and 4 or 5 more bombs since Bush came into office" are
.
Bird? that'd be a first
How long before shit gets outta control with North Korea? - BIRD33 - 10-11-2006
We won't do shit.China's our biggest creditor and practically family with N Korea.You don't push your bankers little brother around.
How long before shit gets outta control with North Korea? - Bill - 10-11-2006
BIRD33 Wrote:We won't do shit.China's our biggest creditor and practically family with N Korea.You don't push your bankers little brother around.
exactly.
although I just read where china is a little pissed about the test too.
How long before shit gets outta control with North Korea? - BIRD33 - 10-11-2006
Shenanigans Wrote:exactly.
although I just read where china is a little pissed about the test too.
They're furious(wink,wink, nod, nod)!
How long before shit gets outta control with North Korea? - Sassy - 10-11-2006
BIRD33 Wrote:What do you have that is ?Shenanigans Wrote:exactly.
although I just read where china is a little pissed about the test too.
They're furious(wink,wink, nod, nod)!
How long before shit gets outta control with North Korea? - Bill - 10-11-2006
BIRD33 Wrote:They're furious(wink,wink, nod, nod)!
so you think thier statements are more to toe the line with the rest of the world's way of thinking....you're probly right. I wonder how russia feels about the test.
How long before shit gets outta control with North Korea? - BIRD33 - 10-11-2006
Shenanigans Wrote:so you think thier statements are more to toe the line with the rest of the world's way of thinking....you're probly right. I wonder how russia feels about the test.
Russia and China are tight now.If it ever came down to it it'd be us vs. those two.
How long before shit gets outta control with North Korea? - Bill - 10-11-2006
BIRD33 Wrote:Russia and China are tight now.If it ever came down to it it'd be us vs. those two.
great....thanks for making me feel better about the whole thing.
How long before shit gets outta control with North Korea? - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-11-2006
North Korea is setting themselves up for collapse. That is what scares the shit out of China because they know when NK goes down the toilet, they will be flooded with refugees.
The stupid thing about NK is that they are one of the poorest countries in the world. But, if you look at their military its ridiculous. They have more submarines than a lot of countries, tons of tanks, an unknown number of missles. They absolutely spend every penny of their countries money on military spending.
The people are fed from foreign aid. China mostly. So, why is this such a suprise to everyone. These countries send NK money, aide, supplies, food, etc....so that they can spend every penny of their GDP on building up this stupid military.
But, the problem is, when you have a country that poor, and that uneducated, all of the military superiority you have is a waste. Their shit won't work, the people won't be smart enough to work it, they won't be smart enough to fix things that break down. Same as Saddam's million man army. Its all for show.
These rogue dictators stay in power by standing up to the super powers and talking tough. Saddam did it for years, Iran's guy is doing it now, and so is Pyongyang. That's how they lead these impoverished uneducated people.
They build up this false sense of superiority and might. Make the people think they are being led by some bigger than life superman.
I'll bet when the dust settles, this nuclear bomb test they had was a joke. Probably some mini-bomb or makeshift simulation. Regardless, we've already seen their ability to fire long range missles. Duds in the ocean.
Now, ramp that up to devising a nuclear weapon small enough and sophisticated enough to shrink into the nose of a precision rocket capable of traveling to the west coast of the united states. Not likely.
North Korea will fall apart soon.
How long before shit gets outta control with North Korea? - BIRD33 - 10-11-2006
Shenanigans Wrote:great....thanks for making me feel better about the whole thing.
There are scary consequences when you alienate the rest of the world and act like you own the earth.
How long before shit gets outta control with North Korea? - Bill - 10-11-2006
BIRD33 Wrote:There are scary consequences when you alienate the rest of the world and act like you own the earth.
Please forward this on to the white house.
How long before shit gets outta control with North Korea? - BIRD33 - 10-11-2006
Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:North Korea is setting themselves up for collapse. That is what scares the shit out of China because they know when NK goes down the toilet, they will be flooded with refugees.
The stupid thing about NK is that they are one of the poorest countries in the world. But, if you look at their military its ridiculous. They have more submarines than a lot of countries, tons of tanks, an unknown number of missles. They absolutely spend every penny of their countries money on military spending.
The people are fed from foreign aid. China mostly. So, why is this such a suprise to everyone. These countries send NK money, aide, supplies, food, etc....so that they can spend every penny of their GDP on building up this stupid military.
But, the problem is, when you have a country that poor, and that uneducated, all of the military superiority you have is a waste. Their shit won't work, the people won't be smart enough to work it, they won't be smart enough to fix things that break down. Same as Saddam's million man army. Its all for show.
These rogue dictators stay in power by standing up to the super powers and talking tough. Saddam did it for years, Iran's guy is doing it now, and so is Pyongyang. That's how they lead these impoverished uneducated people.
They build up this false sense of superiority and might. Make the people think they are being led by some bigger than life superman.
I'll bet when the dust settles, this nuclear bomb test they had was a joke. Probably some mini-bomb or makeshift simulation. Regardless, we've already seen their ability to fire long range missles. Duds in the ocean.
Now, ramp that up to devising a nuclear weapon small enough and sophisticated enough to shrink into the nose of a precision rocket capable of traveling to the west coast of the united states. Not likely.
North Korea will fall apart soon.
N Korea is more of a cult than a country and won't fall apart until Kim jong ill dies. Economically they hit the shits 20 years ago so nothing is going make them fall apart except that.China props them up enough to survive because its makes china look like the sane one in the area and who doesnt like having the crazy motherfucker on your side in a fight.
You can discount their missle program but it doesnt take more than a suitcase full of radioactive stuff to make a dirty bomb.Add that together with the fact they selll their missles to Iran and it makes you wonder if Bush lied about not letting rouge nations develop weapons of mass destruction and if we went to Iraq for different reasons.
How long before shit gets outta control with North Korea? - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-11-2006
BIRD33 Wrote:Probably because technically we still are involved with a war with them since the Korean war never had a peace treaty and the fact we have 30,000 troops stationed at their border.Say what you want about Clinton but the Koreans have 400% more nuclear bomb grade material and 4 or 5 more bombs since Bush came into office.They are taking advantage of our mistake of going to Iraq.
You know, BIRD, for someone that always tries to take a unbiased non partisan approach, you're always the first one to blame everything on political parties.
How long before shit gets outta control with North Korea? - Bill - 10-11-2006
Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:You know, BIRD, for someone that always tries to take a unbiased non partisan approach, you're always the first one to blame everything on political parties.
Untill this country stops voting party lines and starts voting best man for the job, I don't think he has a choice.
In that same verse, it helps to not have such shitty choices when it comes to election time...the world knows it's gonna be billeiry and whoever the republicans can prop up there next time around. And franky I'm not thrilled about either.
How long before shit gets outta control with North Korea? - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-11-2006
Japan's new prime minister is having his nation's legal guys (not sure what they are called in Japan) check into their nations constitution to see what it says about a preimptive strike on NK's missle sites.
How long before shit gets outta control with North Korea? - BIRD33 - 10-11-2006
Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:You know, BIRD, for someone that always tries to take a unbiased non partisan approach, you're always the first one to blame everything on political parties.
I'm not blaming the GOP.I'm blaming one person named George Bush and his policies.You can't say he's been consistent.Do you realize were going back to talking to them directly after he laughed at Clinton for doing the same?In the mean time they developed more nukes than clintons whole term.