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A little help here? - Shadrach - 09-09-2005

I recently recieved the following e-mail from our IT dude at my place of employment:

IT Dude Wrote:Streaming audio (i.e. listening to radio stations on a pc) & video (watching video clips from the Internet) has a detrimental effect on network bandwidth and performance. Please desist from either. Discovery of the above will be presented to the respective Plant manager and HR manager for review.

My question is this: If I right click and save target does it use as much bandwidth as watching/listening online? TIA

A little help here? - ntype - 09-09-2005

it's streaming. the purpose of streaming is to serve a stream of information (using UDP) not to serve files.

Moreover doing a "save as" on such a file only results in you saving the "equivalent of the url but for the media player". you'll save the url to connect to.

so no. and your it dude is right, for example personally I block all kind of streaming on the proxies, and I say all.

A little help here? - Michman - 09-09-2005

you IT guys suck sometimes. (sorry Ntype)

A little help here? - ntype - 09-09-2005

Michman Wrote:you IT guys suck sometimes. (sorry Ntype)

worship bandwidth this is our motto.

A little help here? - yellowdog - 09-09-2005

My admin frowns on streaming as well. As soon as the internets start slowing down around here, you start hearing, "Who the Hell is streaming?" coming from peoples offices.

A little help here? - Shadrach - 09-09-2005

I'm not sure I understand completely (UDP?) But what I'm getting from this is the right click/save as should keep me out of trouble. Thanks.

A little help here? - Michman - 09-09-2005

so i imagine....when I listen to Sirius radio online....he doesnt like it very much?

A little help here? - ntype - 09-09-2005

Shadrach Wrote:I'm not sure I understand completely (UDP?) But what I'm getting from this is the right click/save as should keep me out of trouble. Thanks.

when you save a file you establish a TCP transfert, basically tcp implements ack answers it's a "monitored transfert" if you don't receive a packet you request for it again and receive it again.

Udp doesn't care if you have received the packed, very useful in streaming.

A little help here? - leucetios - 09-09-2005

Shadrach Wrote:I'm not sure I understand completely (UDP?) But what I'm getting from this is the right click/save as should keep me out of trouble. Thanks.

From what I understand (and NType can correct me if I am wrong) doing Save As might not always help. Sometimes you can download the entire mpg or WMV, but sometimes all you download if a small file that has the URL of the media file in it. So if you do SaveAs and then open it your Media Player might still connect to the server and stream the content to you.

A little help here? - Shadrach - 09-09-2005

leucetios Wrote:From what I understand (and NType can correct me if I am wrong) doing Save As might not always help. Sometimes you can download the entire mpg or WMV, but sometimes all you download if a small file that has the URL of the media file in it. So if you do SaveAs and then open it your Media Player might still connect to the server and stream the content to you.

How about I save the file and then unplug my network connection when I watch it...just in case?

A little help here? - leucetios - 09-09-2005

Shadrach Wrote:How about I save the file and then unplug my network connection when I watch it...just in case?

Then you're definately safe.

A little help here? - Shadrach - 09-09-2005

Thanks all.

A little help here? - ntype - 09-09-2005

send my deepest sympaties to your it dude, I know what he's passing through.

A little help here? - Jdub - 09-09-2005

I got nothing, really!

A little help here? - ntype - 09-09-2005

Jdub Wrote:I got nothing, really!

bah if S. saves the mms hyperlink him too.

I make it grade 0 : if you save the streaming file you'll probably have a shortcut and not the file.

:rip:

A little help here? - Jdub - 09-09-2005

ntype Wrote:bah if S. saves the mms hyperlink him too.

I make it grade 0 : if you save the streaming file you'll probably have a shortcut and not the file.

:rip:

Got it, thanks

walk away shaking head!!

A little help here? - leeman - 09-09-2005

Bandwitdth is cheap .....

A little help here? - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 09-09-2005

Shadrach Wrote:I recently recieved the following e-mail from our IT dude at my place of employment:

My question is this: If I right click and save target does it use as much bandwidth as watching/listening online? TIA

Who told you what "desist" meant?

A little help here? - ntype - 09-09-2005

leeman Wrote:Bandwitdth is cheap .....

my precioooouuuuus

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A little help here? - Shadrach - 09-09-2005

Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Who told you what "desist" meant?

No one told me. I kinda got a negative feeling from it though so I figured the dude was pissed and I should cut that shit out. What does it mean?