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Bill Self and Staff Recruiting Hard - cLaY - 08-04-2005

For Kansas University basketball coach Bill Self, the July recruiting-evaluation period began with trips to Nike and Reebok camps in Indianapolis and Teaneck, N.J., and ended at the Price Chopper tournament in Shawnee.

But in between, Self and his assistants ventured to Las Vegas, Augusta, Ga., and many other locales to find solid hoops talent.

"We were all over the map," said Self, who realizes recruiting is a highly competitive business and does not "like to say everywhere we (coaches) were."

"I think it's too early to say how productive it was. All it was, was evaluating. We had a chance to see a lot of good players. The next two classes we are limited in numbers on paper, so you've got to make sure the pieces fit."

Self already has received a verbal commitment from Dwight Lewis, a 6-foot-5 guard from Metairie, La. The Jayhawks, who have three remaining scholarships to give, are in the hunt for a pair of high school senior blue-chippers -- Darrell Arthur, 6-9 from Dallas, and Sherron Collins, 5-11, of Chicago.

"I don't anticipate us having a lot of campus visits (this September), at least the number we sign,"

Self said. "I don't know if it'll be five, six, how many. We have only limited scholarships to give."

In fact, if KU filled all four of its vacancies this year, it would have no scholarships to give to players in the Class of 2007. KU is recruiting two of the top '07 players -- 6-10 Cole Aldrich of Bloomington, Minn., and 6-2 Derrick Rose of Chicago.

"I don't know," Self said, asked if he would save a scholarship or two for next year. "We'll have to wait and see."

Recruiting analyst Shay Wildeboor of rivals.com says KU's recruiting class has a chance to be special.

"If you get Lewis, plus Arthur, the number-two forward in the class, and Collins, the number-two point guard in the class ... if coach Self brings in that type of class again, give the man a raise," Wildeboor said.

"If you don't get Collins, you could see them hold it for '07. If they can get the guys they want I expect them to (receive commitments from at least two more). I don't expect them to fall back two or three guys with all the guys they are in on in '07."

Bill Self and Staff Recruiting Hard - BIRD33 - 08-04-2005

Kansas takes the belows leftovers.

Duke
North Carolina
Kentucky
Uconn

Bill Self and Staff Recruiting Hard - cLaY - 08-04-2005

hardly...UNC, Duke, and KU are the big three...in that order.

Bill Self and Staff Recruiting Hard - BIRD33 - 08-04-2005

Look at the last 5 years of recruiting classes and you will see your wrong. Duke got the number one prospect and NC got the two. So what were you saying? Kansas isnt in the same class as the 4 teams I listed.

Bill Self and Staff Recruiting Hard - cLaY - 08-04-2005

Class 2005 Rankings
. l. Duke; 2. Oklahoma State; 3. Kansas; 4. North Carolina; 5. Memphis; 6. Mississippi State; 7. LSU; 8. Alabama; 9. Arizona; 10. North Carolina State; 11. Southern California; 12. Marquette; 13. Miami-Florida; 14. Florida State; 15. UCLA; 16. Louisville; 17. Notre Dame; 18. Georgia Tech; 19. Washington; 20. Baylor; 21. Cincinnati; 22. Iowa State; 23. Pittsburgh; 24. Auburn; 25. UConn.

Bill Self and Staff Recruiting Hard - cLaY - 08-04-2005

Class 2004 Rankings

1. Kentucky ; 2. Kansas (five Top 100s); 3. Texas 4. Indiana 5. UCLA (four Top 100s); 6. Oregon 7. Louisville8. Florida9. Memphis; 10. Alabama 11. Arkansas 12. UConn; 13. Michigan State; 14. Missouri; 15. Arizona; 16. North Carolina ; 17. Florida State; 18. Mississippi State; 19. Georgia Tech; 20. North Carolina State; 21. Georgia; 22. Duke ; 23. Vanderbilt; 24. Iowa; 25. BYU; Tie 25. California; Tie 25. Clemson; Tie 25. Dayton; Tie 25 Ohio State; Tie 25. Oklahoma StateTie 25. Virginia Tech

Bill Self and Staff Recruiting Hard - cLaY - 08-04-2005

Class 2003 rankings

1. Florida State; 2. Maryland; 3. LSU; 4. Kansas; 5. Arkansas; 6. Michigan State; 7. Kansas State; 8. Syracuse; 9. California; 10. UConn (F-Charlie Villanueva withdrew NBA Draft); 11. Michigan; 12. Missouri; 13. Oklahoma (F/C-Longar Longar did not qualify); 14. Louisville; 15. Mississippi State (C-Jackie Butler did not qualify; F-Travis Outlaw lost to NBA Draft); 16. Florida; 17. Cincinnati; 18. UNLV; 19. Miami-Florida; 20. Southern California; 21. Illinois; 22. Virginia; 23. Pittsburgh; 24. Wake Forest; 25. Iowa State (F-Justin Holt did not win NCAA appeal to play); Tie 25. DePaul; Tie 25. Georgetown; Tie 25. Kentucky; Tie 25. Temple; Tie 25. Xavier

Bill Self and Staff Recruiting Hard - Anhil8tor - 08-04-2005

duke will be $$$$ this year

Bill Self and Staff Recruiting Hard - cLaY - 08-04-2005

Anhil8tor Wrote:duke will be $$$$ this year

I agree, but they're not winning shit.

Bill Self and Staff Recruiting Hard - BIRD33 - 08-04-2005

Its dukes year.

Bill Self and Staff Recruiting Hard - Anhil8tor - 08-04-2005

BIRD33 Wrote:Its dukes year.

2nd.. reddick will make a huge difference and be a leader..

did shavleck get drafted.. didn't think so

Bill Self and Staff Recruiting Hard - BIRD33 - 08-04-2005

Whats the black centers name?Ewing?He's going to be a monster.

Bill Self and Staff Recruiting Hard - BIRD33 - 08-04-2005

Did he enter the draft(randolph)?

Bill Self and Staff Recruiting Hard - Anhil8tor - 08-04-2005

BIRD33 Wrote:Did he enter the draft(randolph)?

yeah he did....

Bill Self and Staff Recruiting Hard - cLaY - 08-04-2005

shavlick entered the draft, hired an agent and went undrafted...so sorry.

Bill Self and Staff Recruiting Hard - BIRD33 - 08-04-2005

cLaY Wrote:shavlick entered the draft, hired an agent and went undrafted...so sorry.

He's a loser, totally living off his relatives name.

Bill Self and Staff Recruiting Hard - cLaY - 08-04-2005

I'm picking Villanova to win it all next year.

Bill Self and Staff Recruiting Hard - BIRD33 - 08-04-2005

cLaY Wrote:I'm picking Villanova to win it all next year.

Jay Wright is not a good coach.They have a good class coming in but they lose the easy games and win the hard ones.I think they will go deep 16 or 8.

Bill Self and Staff Recruiting Hard - cLaY - 08-04-2005

BIRD33 Wrote:Jay Wright is not a good coach.They have a good class coming in but they lose the easy games and win the hard ones.I think they will go deep 16 or 8.

Very true...I'm also anxious to see how Louisville does next year. David Padgett gets to play, he may put them over the edge, but judging from his year in Kansas, I doubt it...we'll see. Michigan State is going to have a really good team next year too.

Bill Self and Staff Recruiting Hard - BIRD33 - 08-04-2005

I like Lousiville to get to the final four and maybe win it.I think Pitino is the second best coach in the college game.I want to see what happens to temple, they have a good squad but Cheyneys coming off his toughest year ever.St Joes is going down hill fast.