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Hey Bird33! - cLaY - 06-17-2005

Seen this face before? I recall seeing it last year during the Western Conference Semi's.

Hey Bird33! - Michman - 06-17-2005

I laughed. Last night was an ass kicking.

Hey Bird33! - BIRD33 - 06-17-2005

Just like the first two games were an ass kicking.You both know they cant get it done in San An.

Hey Bird33! - cLaY - 06-17-2005

BIRD33 Wrote:Just like the first two games were an ass kicking.You both know they cant get it done in San An.

Least amount of TO's in playoff history, 31 point win, in the words of Stephen A. Smith...it was an anhilation. Win Sunday and they'll have plenty of momentum to win one in SA.

Hey Bird33! - BIRD33 - 06-17-2005

cLaY Wrote:Least amount of TO's in playoff history, 31 point win, in the words of Stephen A. Smith...it was an anhilation. Win Sunday and they'll have plenty of momentum to win one in SA.

Its possible.But I doubt it.

Hey Bird33! - Charon - 06-17-2005

I actually watched some of that game and it looked like S.A. was taking it easy and resting.

Hey Bird33! - cLaY - 06-17-2005

E-Judge Wrote:I actually watched some of that game and it looked like S.A. was taking it easy and resting.

Yeah right. Its the NBA Finals, no time for resting...especially when you're playing the defending champs.

Hey Bird33! - Charon - 06-17-2005

The series will go to 7 games to drain as much money possible. If it wasn't for you and Bird I wouldn't even know it was going on.

Hey Bird33! - Michman - 06-17-2005

E-Judge Wrote:The series will go to 7 games to drain as much money possible. If it wasn't for you and Bird I wouldn't even know it was going on.


Thats ok one of them doesnt either.

Hey Bird33! - BIRD33 - 06-17-2005

Michman Wrote:Thats ok one of them doesnt either.


Is that some kind of lame rip on me?If you brought something to the table once I might be offended.

Hey Bird33! - BIRD33 - 06-17-2005

I disagree with Mcdyess being better overall than horry and 35% is not a bad alltime 3 point % otherwise this is interesting.



Sideshow Bob
Is Robert Horry the NBA's best clutch shooter or its best con man?
By Felix Gillette
Posted Thursday, June 16, 2005, at 2:13 PM PT


In Tuesday's Game 3 of the NBA Finals, San Antonio and Detroit are tied with about a minute left in the third quarter. The Spurs' Robert Horry launches a high-arching three-pointer from the top of the key. Nothing but glass. Forty-five seconds later, Horry drives in for a layup—rejected. When the Pistons run out on a fast break, Horry tries to block Richard Hamilton's shot from behind—goaltending.

In less than a minute, Horry's burst of bad play has helped the Pistons lock up a victory. But don't tell that to the announcers. "That's a guy," says ABC's Hubie Brown, "who is not giving up on anything."

This year's playoffs have followed an all-too-familiar script. Robert Horry throws up a bunch of bricks. Robert Horry gets celebrated as "Big Shot Bob," legendary sharpshooter and five-time NBA champion. In both 2003 and 2004, Horry's missed three-pointers helped eliminate his teams from the playoffs. Yet during this year's finals, there's a commercial showing then-Laker Robert Horry hitting a three from the corner against the 76ers back in 2001. "The Finals," says a voice-over, "where legends are born." In Horry's case, it's more like, "The Finals, where legends are nurtured, coddled, and defended against reality."

Robert Horry's career has been built on a great, underappreciated basketball truth: Big shots are only big shots if you make them. Unlike a missed field goal or a botched ground ball, a missed three-pointer is imminently forgettable. Even the best long-range shooters miss most of the time. Every NBA game has dozens and dozens of misfires, all of which look more or less the same. One more miss, no matter how important the context, tends to get lost in the clutter. If you're a role player, that goes double—nobody expected you to make the shot anyway.

Horry's true genius isn't his clutch shooting. It's his understanding of roundball amnesia. After sinking a buzzer-beater against Sacramento in the 2002 playoffs, Horry explained his philosophy. "If I hit it we win, if I miss y'all are going to blame the stars for losing the game anyway," he told the Washington Post's Michael Wilbon. "There's no pressure on me." Horry has none of the guts and gets all of the glory. In the 2003 playoffs, Horry went 2-for-38 from behind the arc—and everybody blamed Shaq and Kobe for the Lakers' downfall. After this year's Game 3 drubbing, Horry got off again—it was Manu Ginobili's and Tim Duncan's fault.

The Big Shot Bob persona is so overwhelming that it blocks out more than missed shots. Remember when Horry took a swing at Utah's Jeff Hornacek in 1997? What a clutch punch! Or when he threw a towel in the face of his coach, Danny Ainge, that same year? Dagger! How about when he got fined for shoving a cameraman in 2003? Now that's killer instinct!

After Game 2 of this year's finals, in which Horry scored 12 points on 4-for-10 shooting, ESPN.com's Bill Simmons declared Horry "one of the more important team players of the last 35 years," and possibly even deserving of a spot in the Hall of Fame. Horry's reputation as a great team player is a bit of a mix-up. It's more accurate to say he's been the teammate of great players: Hakeem Olajuwon in Houston, Shaquille O'Neal in Los Angeles, and Tim Duncan in San Antonio. Horry has made his career coasting on other player's coattails. He's 6-feet-10, yet he lets his teammates scrap in the paint for offensive rebounds while he hovers vulturelike at the three-point line. On offense, he's incapable of creating an open shot for himself. Instead, he stands around waiting for the defense to double-team his superstar teammate, hoping for an open look.

Horry isn't even the best forward from the University of Alabama in this year's finals. Antonio McDyess' career averages (15.7 points, .494 shooting percentage, 8.5 rebounds) dwarf Horry's feeble stat line (7.5 points per game, .431 shooting percentage, 5.0 rebounds). Yet all the glory goes to Horry.

During the first half of Game 3, Horry became the all-time leader in three-pointers made during the NBA Finals, passing Michael Jordan. Only Reggie Miller has made more playoff three-pointers than Horry. What a clutch shooter! Better than Jordan! Never mind that Horry has made only 227 of 634 of his playoff threes—a mediocre .358 shooting percentage. After all, who's going to remember any of those 407 misses?


Felix Gillette is a writer in Austin, Texas.

Hey Bird33! - cLaY - 06-17-2005

McDyess is making his shots. Horry has been non-existant in game 3 and 4.

Hey Bird33! - Michman - 06-17-2005

BIRD33 Wrote:Is that some kind of lame rip on me?If you brought something to the table once I might be offended.

eh....half ass'd rip.............truth be told.......I look forward to your take's on sports items...I dont always argee., nor sometimes understand how you came up with the thought......but you are knowledgeable about sports.

PS..I'll never bring anything to the table so dont get your hopes up.

Hey Bird33! - WoolyGoat - 06-17-2005

I'm still not convinced that Detroit can take a game in San Antonio.

I also don't think the Spurs can win one in Detroit. I vote for a neutral site for 5,6, and 7. :roll:

Hey Bird33! - Michman - 06-17-2005

WoolyGoat Wrote:I'm still not convinced that Detroit can take a game in San Antonio.

I also don't think the Spurs can win one in Detroit. I vote for a neutral site for 5,6, and 7. :roll:

Pistions will win game 5.....then hopefully the motavation of only needing one more game will help carry them to winning 1 game in San Antonio. It will be very tought tho

Hey Bird33! - cLaY - 06-17-2005

WoolyGoat Wrote:I'm still not convinced that Detroit can take a game in San Antonio.

I also don't think the Spurs can win one in Detroit. I vote for a neutral site for 5,6, and 7. :roll:

That would be sweet!

I have my doubts about getting one in SA, but I think momentum and Big Ben finally showing up is making a difference. Getting shots to fall on the road is a different story, but bringing defensive intensity will force fast break shots. Getting second chance oppurtunities has been key as well. I think the things Detroit is doing to SA will translate over when they're on the road, maybe not as effective with a home crowd...but we'll see.

Hey Bird33! - BIRD33 - 06-20-2005

Hi Rasheed Wallace, my name is Robert Horry.You might want to cover me when Im shooting threes.

Buy your pistons nba championship gear now before it becomes a collectors item.

Hey Bird33! - VitaminE - 06-20-2005

:mad:

Hey Bird33! - cLaY - 06-20-2005

BIRD33 Wrote:Hi Rasheed Wallace, my name is Robert Horry.You might want to cover me when Im shooting threes.

Buy your pistons nba championship gear now before it becomes a collectors item.

Geezus Fuck, what was he thinking....

You know LB told them to guard their shooters.

Its still not over yet.

Hey Bird33! - Dr. Lecter - 06-20-2005

What exactly is Bird's stance? Seems like anti-Piston to me. (as opposed to pro-anybody)
Or anti Clay, which gives me an even better chance to pop out of Clay's bachelor party cake.