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How long before shit gets outta control with North Korea? - BIRD33 - 10-13-2006
snarg Wrote:the republicans are better at spinning, and you are in their web
intelligent people don't try to defend W
you phukkers have no idea who GIULIANI is
it would be be dick cheney redux
perish the thought
I'm not saying its great but just that it's going to happen.
How long before shit gets outta control with North Korea? - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-13-2006
BIRD33 Wrote:Clarke was there talking to bush.
Politicians rarely say what they really mean in speech's wouldnt you agree?
It is curious that he only applied his bush doctrine to the one country his father didnt finish off when others were bigger threats.
Well, since you have all the answers to what wasn't done right, let's hear what you would have done. Let's just assume for a minute that you are Bush, its right after 9-11 and you have 4 years to be President. What would you have done by way of protecting our nation against another possible attack? You don't have to go into great detail. Just hit on the various things you would have done by way of foreign policy.
How long before shit gets outta control with North Korea? - BIRD33 - 10-13-2006
Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Well, since you have all the answers to what wasn't done right, let's hear what you would have done. Let's just assume for a minute that you are Bush, its right after 9-11 and you have 4 years to be President. What would you have done by way of protecting our nation against another possible attack? You don't have to go into great detail. Just hit on the various things you would have done by way of foreign policy.
I'd contain Saddam since Iran is the bigger theat and handing them Iraq like we did isnt good.
I would get bin laden and not downgrade him to "not important" like bush said two months ago.
We would still have all the worlds good will that we flushed down the toilet when we went to Iraq and I'd use that to put pressure on other countries to help deal with threats.Its called diplomacy.
How long before shit gets outta control with North Korea? - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-13-2006
BIRD33 Wrote:I'd contain Saddam since Iran is the bigger theat and handing them Iraq like we did isnt good.
I would get bin laden and not downgrade him to "not important" like bush said two months ago.
We would still have all the worlds good will that we flushed down the toilet when we went to Iraq and I'd use that to put pressure on other countries to help deal with threats.Its called diplomacy.
So you'd basically do exactly what everyone was doing before 9-11. And you'd wait for one of them to either do something to us or wait for one of them to pay some group of radical muslims to do something to us or wait for one of them to sell nuclear materials to some radical group to use against us.
In the meantime, while waiting on something to happen, you'd push for sanctions and other countries to join us in putting pressure on them.
How long before shit gets outta control with North Korea? - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-13-2006
BIRD33 Wrote:I would get bin laden and not downgrade him to "not important" like bush said two months ago.
Okay, so your spin on Bush saying that bin laden, because of how he has to hide and live in secrecy and move constantly, is not the threat he once was....means that we aren't trying to find him anymore. Is that right?
Instead, you'd go get him.
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You'd make a great post game announcer.
How long before shit gets outta control with North Korea? - Sassy - 10-13-2006
Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Where did get ?Oh I get ."When was this exactly?Have you ever been to Europe?BIRD33 Wrote:I would get bin laden and not downgrade him to "not important" like bush said two months ago.
Okay, so your spin on Bush saying that bin laden, because of how he has to hide and live in secrecy and move constantly, is not the threat he once was....means that we aren't trying to find him anymore. Is that right?
Instead, you'd go get him.
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You'd make a great post game announcer.
That was a long time ago"? Is it ? Does "it" still refer to ?
How long before shit gets outta control with North Korea? - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-13-2006
BIRD, would part of your containment of Saddam involve restricting where his fighter jets could fly? Would you get mad at him if he didnt abide by those restrictions and shot at our planes in the area outside of his restricted space?
If you got mad at him for that, would you yell at him or send him a mean letter?
How long before shit gets outta control with North Korea? - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-13-2006
If you told him to stand in a circle and he kept getting out of it, how many times would you let him do it before you really got mad? I guess if he did it enough you could draw the circle with a real heavy marker. Maybe point your finger and say, "Saddam, don't do that again or I will tell you not to do it again. I mean it"
How long before shit gets outta control with North Korea? - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-13-2006
The BIRD33 Doctrine:
1. Contain Saddam. If he doesn't abide by the containment, get the global community to stand with you and tell him he has to do it. Keep doing this until he listens.
2. Go after Iran because they are the bigger threat. Don't do anything militarily, but use diplomacy. Tell them not to do things you don't want them to do. If they refuse, keep telling them. Make sure you stay friends with everyone while you do this, but be strong and firm. Just don't piss anybody off.
3. Go to Osama Bin Laden's house and arrest him.
4. Don't fuck with North Korea. Dude has a huge army and missles that can do all kinds of shit.
How long before shit gets outta control with North Korea? - BIRD33 - 10-13-2006
Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:BIRD, would part of your containment of Saddam involve restricting where his fighter jets could fly? Would you get mad at him if he didnt abide by those restrictions and shot at our planes in the area outside of his restricted space?
If you got mad at him for that, would you yell at him or send him a mean letter?
I'd get as mad as we get at other countries who violate the same UN regulations which besides iraq just means economic sanctions.
I wouldnt invade until the UN voted to go with us like we did in Gulf War 1.I think its unamerican to invade a country that didnt attack us.
How long before shit gets outta control with North Korea? - BIRD33 - 10-13-2006
Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:The BIRD33 Doctrine:
1. Contain Saddam. If he doesn't abide by the containment, get the global community to stand with you and tell him he has to do it. Keep doing this until he listens.
2. Go after Iran because they are the bigger threat. Don't do anything militarily, but use diplomacy. Tell them not to do things you don't want them to do. If they refuse, keep telling them. Make sure you stay friends with everyone while you do this, but be strong and firm. Just don't piss anybody off.
3. Go to Osama Bin Laden's house and arrest him.
4. Don't fuck with North Korea. Dude has a huge army and missles that can do all kinds of shit.
How GOP like of you to twist peoples views on something and turn it in to a catch phrase like "cut and run".
How long before shit gets outta control with North Korea? - Sassy - 10-13-2006
BIRD33 Wrote:I am not sure if I can quantify the answer.Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:The BIRD33 Doctrine:
1. Contain Saddam. If he doesn't abide by the containment, get the global community to stand with you and tell him he has to do it. Keep doing this until he listens.
2. Go after Iran because they are the bigger threat. Don't do anything militarily, but use diplomacy. Tell them not to do things you don't want them to do. If they refuse, keep telling them. Make sure you stay friends with everyone while you do this, but be strong and firm. Just don't piss anybody off.
3. Go to Osama Bin Laden's house and arrest him.
4. Don't fuck with North Korea. Dude has a huge army and missles that can do all kinds of shit.
How GOP like of you to twist people views on something and turn it in to a catch phrase like "cut and run".
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Can you please rephrase that with fewer ideas, or different thoughts?
How long before shit gets outta control with North Korea? - BIRD33 - 10-13-2006
Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:If you told him to stand in a circle and he kept getting out of it, how many times would you let him do it before you really got mad? I guess if he did it enough you could draw the circle with a real heavy marker. Maybe point your finger and say, "Saddam, don't do that again or I will tell you not to do it again. I mean it"
I'd bomb him.I like bush when he first came into office am not into nation building for the exact reasons you see on the evening news every night.
How long before shit gets outta control with North Korea? - Sassy - 10-13-2006
BIRD33 Wrote:Tell me a story.Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:If you told him to stand in a circle and he kept getting out of it, how many times would you let him do it before you really got mad? I guess if he did it enough you could draw the circle with a real heavy marker. Maybe point your finger and say, "Saddam, don't do that again or I will tell you not to do it again. I mean it"
I'd bomb him.I like bush when he first came into office am not into nation building for the exact reasons you see on the evening news every night.
A lot of people like that.
He is okay but I am a Libertarian not a Republican.
How long before shit gets outta control with North Korea? - BIRD33 - 10-13-2006
Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:So you'd basically do exactly what everyone was doing before 9-11. And you'd wait for one of them to either do something to us or wait for one of them to pay some group of radical muslims to do something to us or wait for one of them to sell nuclear materials to some radical group to use against us.
In the meantime, while waiting on something to happen, you'd push for sanctions and other countries to join us in putting pressure on them.
What do you mean them?Remember Bush said Iraq had nothing to do with 9\11.Which is it?
How long before shit gets outta control with North Korea? - BIRD33 - 10-13-2006
Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Okay, so your spin on Bush saying that bin laden, because of how he has to hide and live in secrecy and move constantly, is not the threat he once was....means that we aren't trying to find him anymore. Is that right?
Instead, you'd go get him.
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You'd make a great post game announcer.
He's a central figure to alqieda according to bush after 9-11.I wouldnt close the office in charge of finding him like bush did two months ago is all I'm saying.
How long before shit gets outta control with North Korea? - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-13-2006
Oct 11, 2002 right after the Senate voted 77-23 and the House voted 296-133 for the US to attack Iraq.....
John McCain Wrote:But Sen. John McCain, R-Arizona, said the United States needs to move before Saddam can develop a more advanced arsenal.
"Giving peace a chance only gives Saddam Hussein more time to prepare for war on his terms, at a time of his choosing, in pursuit of ambitions that will only grow as his power to achieve them grows," McCain said.
How long before shit gets outta control with North Korea? - BIRD33 - 10-13-2006
Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Oct 11, 2002 right after the Senate voted 77-23 and the House voted 296-133 for the US to attack Iraq.....
Based on trumped up intelligence.The Bush administation only released what they wanted them to see per Richard Clarke who was there.
How long before shit gets outta control with North Korea? - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 10-13-2006
BIRD33 Wrote:I'd get as mad as we get at other countries who violate the same UN regulations which besides iraq just means economic sanctions.
I wouldnt invade until the UN voted to go with us like we did in Gulf War 1.I think its unamerican to invade a country that didnt attack us.
But its not unamerican to attack a country that has attacked another country. Or to attack a country that shoots at our military planes flying in neutral airspace. Or to attack a country that tried to assasinate your president. Or attack a country that pays terrorists to blow themselves up in cities to kill private citizens. Or attack a country that has a leader that is killing his own people in large genocide attacks.
How long before shit gets outta control with North Korea? - BIRD33 - 10-13-2006
Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:But its not unamerican to attack a country that has attacked another country. Or to attack a country that shoots at our military planes flying in neutral airspace. Or to attack a country that tried to assasinate your president. Or attack a country that pays terrorists to blow themselves up in cities to kill private citizens. Or attack a country that has a leader that is killing his own people in large genocide attacks.
Theres genocide going on right now and we don't plan on doing shit about so don't give me that sanctimonious crap.
All the examples of us attacking a country that didnt attack us came after the UN voted to do it, like Gulf war I.In Iraq we didnt and it's simply unamerican.