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Can white folks say Nigger yet? - cLaY - 11-12-2008

Comparing Natives Americans to African Americans is apples to oranges....just sayin


Can white folks say Nigger yet? - Banana - 11-12-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:True they probably wouldnt have made it into what we have but that doesnt change the fact we ran them off it.I'm not defending their complaining but I don't think they are irrational.

I'd be with you if I could walk onto a reservation and ask one of them to explain the history to me. I guarantee most of them have no fucking clue, but start taking away their "priviledges" and they default to the same old whine.


Can white folks say Nigger yet? - Banana - 11-12-2008

cLaY Wrote:Comparing Natives Americans to African Americans is apples to oranges....just sayin

Not in the context. It all about the past and how it's perceived in the present, and how it influences the future.


Can white folks say Nigger yet? - CT280 - 11-12-2008

im all about ripping shit from the less fortunate.


Can white folks say Nigger yet? - cLaY - 11-12-2008

Banana Wrote:I'd be with you if I could walk onto a reservation and ask one of them to explain the history to me. I guarantee most of them have no fucking clue, but start taking away their "priviledges" and they default to the same old whine.

In some small cases, maybe, but the vast majority of Natives Americans that are left are quite aware of their history and embrace it.


Can white folks say Nigger yet? - BIRD33 - 11-12-2008

I'm pretty sure most know the history as white man came and crushed us then penned us in on reservations.Cheap cigarettes or 200 years of total domination of the world economy via natural resources?

This is like my slavery argument.We all benefited so we kind of can't complain about their complaining.


Can white folks say Nigger yet? - cLaY - 11-12-2008

when its relatable, why do blacks and indians not have a right to bitch about the hypocrisies they live with? unlike flumper and anhil9tor, the bigotry is still pretty relevant.


Can white folks say Nigger yet? - Banana - 11-12-2008

cLaY Wrote:In some small cases, maybe, but the vast majority of Natives Americans that are left are quite aware of their history and embrace it.

The Natives might be different where you are. They aren't so keen about their culture and heritage here. All many of them seem to care about are the perks. I may be looking at a small cross section here, but we live on the border of a reservation. We know and have drank beer with many of them.


Can white folks say Nigger yet? - Banana - 11-12-2008

cLaY Wrote:when its relatable, why do blacks and indians not have a right to bitch about the hypocrisies they live with? unlike flumper and anhil9tor, the bigotry is still pretty relevant.

Such as?


Can white folks say Nigger yet? - BIRD33 - 11-12-2008

Banana Wrote:Such as?

Having white people tell them what to do on their native land?


Can white folks say Nigger yet? - cLaY - 11-12-2008

we're just now electing the first black president, all the while he's deemed a terrorist and muslim?


Can white folks say Nigger yet? - Banana - 11-12-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:Having white people tell them what to do on their native land?

What? They do whatever the fuck they want with their land. See also: abusing wild animals, and letting their houses fall into ruin.


Can white folks say Nigger yet? - Banana - 11-12-2008

cLaY Wrote:we're just now electing the first black president, all the while he's deemed a terrorist and muslim?

Fair point, but I was thinking more about the slavery issue.


Can white folks say Nigger yet? - BIRD33 - 11-12-2008

Banana Wrote:What? They do whatever the fuck they want with their land. See also: abusing wild animals, and letting their houses fall into ruin.

The small sliver of land we let them occupy?The hypocrisy is we took it all and gave them some crumbs and we still tell them what to do.


Can white folks say Nigger yet? - Vitamin E - 11-12-2008

I don't have an offensive word to call native Americans.

That should weigh into this discussion.


Can white folks say Nigger yet? - BIRD33 - 11-12-2008

I'd be offended if I was them about the Malt liquor called crazy horse.It tastes like ass.


Can white folks say Nigger yet? - Banana - 11-12-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:The small sliver of land we let them occupy?The hypocrisy is we took it all and gave them some crumbs and we still tell them what to do.

That's my point. They (generalization here to the ones that border where we live) don't give a shit about what happened hundreds of years ago. Oh, my bad. They care when we start talking about changing the subsidies they get (in an attempt to actually improve circumstanes on the Reservation). But, they don't even know why they have these privvies. They are not familair with their own history.


Can white folks say Nigger yet? - Vitamin E - 11-12-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:I'd be offended if I was them about the Malt liquor called crazy horse.It tastes like ass.

Spend a week in South Dakota over the summer. Saw Mount Rushmore and stuff. The day we went to see Crazy Horse, they gave us passes to come back after sunset to watch a laser show on the mountain.

The show started out with two tobacco ads and a liquor store promo.

Hillarious.


Can white folks say Nigger yet? - BIRD33 - 11-12-2008

Banana Wrote:That's my point. They (generalization here to the ones that border where we live) don't give a shit about what happened hundreds of years ago. Oh, my bad. They care when we start talking about changing the subsidies they get (in an attempt to actually improve circumstanes on the Reservation). But, they don't even know why they have these privvies. They are not familair with their own history.

Maybe not to the letter but I'm pretty sure they know the gist of it which is the white man screwed them.

I don't get why they get special privileges either.We should just do one big reparations check and get it over with.


Can white folks say Nigger yet? - Banana - 11-12-2008

BIRD33 Wrote:Maybe not to the letter but I'm pretty sure they know the gist of it which is the white man screwed them.

I don't get why they get special privileges either.We should just do one big reparations check and get it over with.

Agreed. Our ancestors screwed theirs hundreds of years ago. We are now trying to help make reparations for that. I'm not sure when that ends.