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Paddy - 04-17-2007
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Didn't he used to post here as Slurker?
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BIRD33 - 04-17-2007
snarg Wrote:why?
I like the idea but we can't get away with that here.The only legal poker games here have to be some type of charity at a bar where 1st place wins a prize and not everyone elses money.
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snarg - 04-17-2007
BIRD33 Wrote:I like the idea but we can't get away with that here.The only legal poker games here have to be some type of charity at a bar where 1st place wins a prize and not everyone elses money.
glad to hear you are not againt adults gambling as they wish without being interfered with by big brother
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Flumper Barflusterbutt - 04-17-2007
BIRD33 Wrote:He was shooting people in the forehead.I'm no gun expert but could a .22 kill someone at point blank range?Balance that with the fact he had a much larger gun in his other hand.I bet out of the 30 who died some where trying to stop him but I don't blame anyone for jumping out the window.
I don't blame anyone for jumping out the window either, but I'm just saying that somebody had to have a shot at trying to take him down. Killing 30 people is a whole hell of a lot of people. Reloading several times.
And, about the .22 caliber. I was at a rodeo one time and we were in the parking lot in several pickups. Three guys left in the front of their truck and one of the guys in the truck had gotten into some shit with some guys earlier in the parking lot. They were trying to get him the fuck out of there. Anyway, as they drove off, the back window of the truck was shot out. Some dude with a .22 rifle shot it. They kept driving and later one of the guys was rubbing the back of his head and said he thought he might have gotten shot. Turned out, he did get shot, but the bullet didn't even go into the skin. He found the bullet in the brim of his hat.
Now, if he pressed a .22 pistol right up to a guy's forehead and pulled the trigger, then maybe. But a .22 pistol is just one step up from a pellet gun when it comes to shooting at someone.
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BIRD33 - 04-17-2007
snarg Wrote:glad to hear you are not againt adults gambling as they wish without being interfered with by big brother
PA is still in very quaker like in some respects.No liquor or beer on Sunday has had me driving to Maryland for a keg a few times.The slot parlors we just got are a real step forward but they'll probably never have table games which is retarded.
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who - 04-18-2007
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leeman - 04-18-2007
Gun Control ????
massacre in blacksburg - ntype - 04-18-2007
BIRD33 Wrote:The guy shot his girl and someone else at 7:30 AM and didnt start killing the rest till 9:30 AM. The cops thought he fled the scene and told kids to still go to class.That guy must have been hiding somewhere for a while and realized he was going to get either life in jail or a death sentence and just said fuck it I'm taking as many as I can with me.The cops really fucked up.
Agrees, prolly what the thought at the moment.
Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:One of the guns was a friggin .22 pistol. A .22 pistol wouldn't puncture through a trash can. I'd bet you could take 10 hits with a .22 and never stop coming. One kid they interviewed last night had been shot in the arm with a .22 bullet and didn't even know he was shot until after it was over.
mmh dunno the force of the impact would surely do some arm too and btw human skin is less resistant than a trash can (plastic or metal), when you are hit by a bullet the shock created by the wave of shock of the bullet is most the times enough to stop you.
As for the shooted kid who didn't knew this is common business when you are full of adrenaline.
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who - 04-18-2007
leeman Wrote:Gun Control ????
Be serious
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leeman - 04-18-2007
who Wrote:Be serious
I am ...
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cannonman - 04-18-2007
No wonder he went crazy. His celebrity lookalikes are horrible.
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snarg - 04-18-2007
as i unnerstanit, many professional hit men use 22's
just sayin'
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Flumper Barflusterbutt - 04-18-2007
ntype Wrote:As for the shooted kid who didn't knew this is common business when you are full of adrenaline.
Yeah, that probably explains why he was standing out on the campus a few hours later with his arm only in a sling and he was talking to reporters about being shot. I'm sure his adrenaline was still working and they just checked him out of the hospital.
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Jimmy - 04-18-2007
Remember this letter???
On April 20, 1999, there was yet another gruesome shooting in Littleton,
Colorado. Kids killing kids. And again, the entire nation in its uproar is
trying to figure out why. I am eighteen years old. I live in a Small town
near Madison, Wisconsin. A small town just like the ones where these
horrifying shootings always seem to take place.
Every time those stories come on the television, I can't help but notice how
easily it could be my small town next. And I want to know why this is
happening just as badly as any parent or police chief or anchorman. The
thing is, I am right in the middle of it. I am in the same age group as all
of these high school kids. So I may have some insight for the world that has
been otherwise unattainable since these shootings started some years ago.
The night of the Littleton shooting, as I was flipping through the various
news channels that were covering the story in Littleton, Colorado, I heard
something that struck a chord in me. An anchorman was interviewing the
mother of a victim in the Jonesboro shooting. His question was: "If you look
at America in the 1950's, you will find that this kind of thing never
happened; whereas if you look at America today, this kind of thing is
becoming more and more frequent. Why do you think this is happening?" The
woman, of course, could not answer the question. In fact, she didn't really
even try.
But I did. I thought about it for a long time that night. And again the next
morning, when my favorite morning radio talk show asked its listeners why
they thought this has been happening. Many people said it's the parents of
the kids. Many people suggested television and video games. Many people even
turned to popular musicians, looking to put the blame somewhere. But I will
tell you what I think it is. What I, a regular teenager riding on the
coattails of Generation X, blame it on. It is not the parents or the movies
or the rock stars. It is AMERICA. It is this culture of death, this culture
in which liberals and feminists and activists are so anxious to let anything
be "OK" that the once tightened, knotted rope of society is unraveling right
beneath us.
Don't you see? There can be no order without discipline. All of those things
people think are causing children to run into a school and shoot their
teachers and peers and even kids they don't know - the movies, the video
games, the parents, the rap artists - they are only REFLECTIONS of our
society. Society breaks down, from one big metaphoric "family" into 50
metaphoric "families" and so on and so on, until you have the actual FAMILY,
the one with the parents and the kids and the dog. It is not one thing or
two things; it is the attitude of an entire "familiar" nation being
reflected back at us in the kids.
Just as that anchorman suggested, something was different about the 1950's.
WE WERE CONSERVATIVE. We had boundaries; we had a definite knowledge of
right and wrong throughout the entire nation. We didn't have feminists
pushing women so hard to go get a job that a woman who didn't have a job was
somehow "bad," thereby leaving kids at home with inadequate parental
guidance and often times with parents who were truly unhappy. We didn't have
liberals fighting so avidly to legalize everything that it was at the point
of completely blurring the line between good and bad. We didn't have a
nationwide media surge dedicated to sex and violence so intense that if you
weren't playing killing video games at age 14, then you were trying to
choose between contraceptives beforehand or abortion afterwards. We didn't
have disputes over whether or not we should help someone who is dying die
sooner - over whether or not we should ASSIST them in committing SUICIDE.
And we certainly didn't have a President who was in favor of NATO bombing
and killing children in Serbia come on the television to grieve the loss for
the families of children killed in America.
We live in a loosely tied society, a culture dedicated to death. If you
don't want the kid, kill it. If you don't want tolive out the rest of your
God-given days, kill yourself. Or better yet, have someone else come help
you do it. I guess, no matter how horrible or gruesome or gut-wrenching it
may be, it was just a matter of time before someone got that
"killing-as-a-means-to-an-end" idea stuck in their head for the part between
birth and death as well. Everything that happens in families and cities and
states and countries is the mirror image of the big picture.
We are falling apart as a society. Am I - some random normal teenager in
Farmertown, U.S.A. - the only one who sees that? It's sad and it's hard to
believe, but what's worse is that it's scary. I think it's time for our -
America's - Mom and Dad to ground us - to say, "If you don't shape up by the
time I count to three..." And then really count to three. Because we are
running wild and pretty soon we're going to be too far from home to ever get
back.
There was once a great saying by a famous man that has rung true throughout
the history of mankind - in every family and in every society and in every
social group and in every religion - it was a frighteningly true statement
that cannot be disputed. I am reminded of it now, in the wake of yet another
indescribably tormenting result of a nation gone haywire...
"By their fruits you shall know them."
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BIRD33 - 04-18-2007
Jimmy Wrote:Remember this letter???
On April 20, 1999, there was yet another gruesome shooting in Littleton,
Colorado. Kids killing kids. And again, the entire nation in its uproar is
trying to figure out why. I am eighteen years old. I live in a Small town
near Madison, Wisconsin. A small town just like the ones where these
horrifying shootings always seem to take place.
Every time those stories come on the television, I can't help but notice how
easily it could be my small town next. And I want to know why this is
happening just as badly as any parent or police chief or anchorman. The
thing is, I am right in the middle of it. I am in the same age group as all
of these high school kids. So I may have some insight for the world that has
been otherwise unattainable since these shootings started some years ago.
The night of the Littleton shooting, as I was flipping through the various
news channels that were covering the story in Littleton, Colorado, I heard
something that struck a chord in me. An anchorman was interviewing the
mother of a victim in the Jonesboro shooting. His question was: "If you look
at America in the 1950's, you will find that this kind of thing never
happened; whereas if you look at America today, this kind of thing is
becoming more and more frequent. Why do you think this is happening?" The
woman, of course, could not answer the question. In fact, she didn't really
even try.
But I did. I thought about it for a long time that night. And again the next
morning, when my favorite morning radio talk show asked its listeners why
they thought this has been happening. Many people said it's the parents of
the kids. Many people suggested television and video games. Many people even
turned to popular musicians, looking to put the blame somewhere. But I will
tell you what I think it is. What I, a regular teenager riding on the
coattails of Generation X, blame it on. It is not the parents or the movies
or the rock stars. It is AMERICA. It is this culture of death, this culture
in which liberals and feminists and activists are so anxious to let anything
be "OK" that the once tightened, knotted rope of society is unraveling right
beneath us.
Don't you see? There can be no order without discipline. All of those things
people think are causing children to run into a school and shoot their
teachers and peers and even kids they don't know - the movies, the video
games, the parents, the rap artists - they are only REFLECTIONS of our
society. Society breaks down, from one big metaphoric "family" into 50
metaphoric "families" and so on and so on, until you have the actual FAMILY,
the one with the parents and the kids and the dog. It is not one thing or
two things; it is the attitude of an entire "familiar" nation being
reflected back at us in the kids.
Just as that anchorman suggested, something was different about the 1950's.
WE WERE CONSERVATIVE. We had boundaries; we had a definite knowledge of
right and wrong throughout the entire nation. We didn't have feminists
pushing women so hard to go get a job that a woman who didn't have a job was
somehow "bad," thereby leaving kids at home with inadequate parental
guidance and often times with parents who were truly unhappy. We didn't have
liberals fighting so avidly to legalize everything that it was at the point
of completely blurring the line between good and bad. We didn't have a
nationwide media surge dedicated to sex and violence so intense that if you
weren't playing killing video games at age 14, then you were trying to
choose between contraceptives beforehand or abortion afterwards. We didn't
have disputes over whether or not we should help someone who is dying die
sooner - over whether or not we should ASSIST them in committing SUICIDE.
And we certainly didn't have a President who was in favor of NATO bombing
and killing children in Serbia come on the television to grieve the loss for
the families of children killed in America.
We live in a loosely tied society, a culture dedicated to death. If you
don't want the kid, kill it. If you don't want tolive out the rest of your
God-given days, kill yourself. Or better yet, have someone else come help
you do it. I guess, no matter how horrible or gruesome or gut-wrenching it
may be, it was just a matter of time before someone got that
"killing-as-a-means-to-an-end" idea stuck in their head for the part between
birth and death as well. Everything that happens in families and cities and
states and countries is the mirror image of the big picture.
We are falling apart as a society. Am I - some random normal teenager in
Farmertown, U.S.A. - the only one who sees that? It's sad and it's hard to
believe, but what's worse is that it's scary. I think it's time for our -
America's - Mom and Dad to ground us - to say, "If you don't shape up by the
time I count to three..." And then really count to three. Because we are
running wild and pretty soon we're going to be too far from home to ever get
back.
There was once a great saying by a famous man that has rung true throughout
the history of mankind - in every family and in every society and in every
social group and in every religion - it was a frighteningly true statement
that cannot be disputed. I am reminded of it now, in the wake of yet another
indescribably tormenting result of a nation gone haywire...
"By their fruits you shall know them."
Get off your fucking high horse.Whats your explanation for why the below happened in such a civilized nation as canada?Why don't you guys enact some gun laws for christ sake?
http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=302bfe82-018c-4795-9191-e92c551a7b4a&k=15027
"Andrea Barone was among the students at Montreal's Dawson College to be pinned down in the school's cafeteria by Kimveer Gill's gunfire last September.
The eighteen-year-old student is still dealing with memories of watching Gill pump nine bullets into the body of Anastasia De Sousa who died in the rampage, which left 20 people wounded. "
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Jimmy - 04-18-2007
That was Quebec, not Canada.
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BIRD33 - 04-18-2007
Jimmy Wrote:That was Quebec, not Canada.
Thats canada to the countries that matter.So whats your explanation for how that could happen in such a peaceful country such as yours?Could you just be talking out of your ass?I'll wait for your snarky response because you don't actually have a point.
massacre in blacksburg - ntype - 04-18-2007
Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Yeah, that probably explains why he was standing out on the campus a few hours later with his arm only in a sling and he was talking to reporters about being shot. I'm sure his adrenaline was still working and they just checked him out of the hospital.
I was telling for the same moment, now if we have to talk about being picky I would say something like state of shock or massive dose of pain relief drugs. But clearly that dood wasn't wounded to death either...
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Jimmy - 04-18-2007
http://fireandice.environics.net/surveys/fireandice/main/fireandice.asp?surveyID=1
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BIRD33 - 04-18-2007
Jimmy Wrote:http://fireandice.environics.net/surveys/fireandice/main/fireandice.asp?surveyID=1
Canada needs a scapegoat for its problems, ehh?Not big enough to man up and own up to your own countries problems,has to be the big bad americans fault.