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religious question - Bill - 05-12-2005
Fairiedust Wrote:Is this an assumption that we are a project to some superior "beings"?
who knows.....beside what are we gonna do about it?....just stating that it is written in the bible.
religious question - Fairiedust - 05-12-2005
Bill Wrote:who knows.....beside what are we gonna do about it?....just stating that it is written in the bible.
NOTHING...just thought that was interesting....
religious question - Bill - 05-12-2005
Fairiedust Wrote:NOTHING...just thought that was interesting....
Care to pretend we're back in the garden and run around nekkid?
religious question - Fairiedust - 05-12-2005
Bill Wrote:Care to pretend we're back in the garden and run around nekkid?
sure it's warm enough outside
religious question - Beaucephus - 05-12-2005
Fairiedust Wrote:God is loving, you should not fear him....
I do not fear God in the sense that I am scared of Him. I do however fear the wrath of God which I believe is coming in due time. That is what I meant by God fearing.
religious question - Fairiedust - 05-12-2005
Beaucephus Wrote:I do not fear God in the sense that I am scared of Him. I do however fear the wrath of God which I believe is coming in due time. That is what I meant by God fearing.
yeah but the whole idea is to believe, love,and be humble ....then you have nothing to fear...it's the non believing sinners that should be concerned about the wrath stuff...:d
religious question - Beaucephus - 05-12-2005
Fairiedust Wrote:yeah but the whole idea is to believe, love,and be humble ....then you have nothing to fear...it's the non believing sinners that should be concerned about the wrath stuff...:d
Absolutely. But it is the fear of being one of those non believing sinners that motivates me to keep myself on a straighter path. I am not always that successful at it either I'm afraid. It's a good thing that God is a forgiving God.
religious question - Fairiedust - 05-12-2005
Beaucephus Wrote:Absolutely. But it is the fear of being one of those non believing sinners that motivates me to keep myself on a straighter path. I am not always that successful at it either I'm afraid. It's a good thing that God is a forgiving God.
Amen
religious question - snarg - 05-13-2005
may god help all you ignorant fools
and be afraid, be very afraid
religious question - CT280 - 05-13-2005
leeman Wrote:God is good ......
tastes like strawberryjam ....
:lool:
religious question - ntype - 05-13-2005
god has been invented by us.
religious question - Gadonkadonk Money Dawg - 05-13-2005
This thread sucks. Quit wasting replies on it or I will troll and spam the board the rest of the day. :fuckYou:
religious question - Bill - 05-13-2005
Gadonkadonk Money Dawg Wrote:This thread sucks. Quit wasting replies on it or I will troll and spam the board the rest of the day. :fuckYou:
And that's different from everyday how?
religious question - Beaucephus - 05-13-2005
bump
religious question - Bill - 05-13-2005
I wonder if God gets Spam....as in spam prayers..
religious question - Gadonkadonk Money Dawg - 05-13-2005
Bill Wrote:And that's different from everyday how?
OK. Have it your way.
religious question - leucetios - 05-13-2005
Beaucephus Wrote:bump
Here's where I was hoping to go with this thread before I got bored.
I think the bible says something to the effect of god created man in his (god's) own image. If that is true (and for the purpose of this thread, I will take the bible to be truth), it raised a couple of questions for me:
1. If god created man in his own image, that implies god is a man. Having genitals implies god also reproduces, which implies the existence of not only female gods, but a pantheon of gods.
2. If there are multiple gods and they procreate similar to us, then why didn't god whip out Eve at the same time? Why wait for Adam to bitch and whine about not getting any?
3. More than that, even if god is asexual, why create a MAN capable of reproduction but not give him the other half of the equation until he asked for it? Seems kinda sadistic.
religious question - ntype - 05-13-2005
leucetios Wrote:Here's where I was hoping to go with this thread before I got bored.
I think the bible says something to the effect of god created man in his (god's) own image. If that is true (and for the purpose of this thread, I will take the bible to be truth), it raised a couple of questions for me:
1. If god created man in his own image, that implies god is a man. Having genitals implies god also reproduces, which implies the existence of not only female gods, but a pantheon of gods.
2. If there are multiple gods and they procreate similar to us, then why didn't god whip out Eve at the same time? Why wait for Adam to bitch and whine about not getting any?
3. More than that, even if god is asexual, why create a MAN capable of reproduction but not give him the other half of the equation until he asked for it? Seems kinda sadistic.
1. That's called polytheism. A part the three major religions (christian, jewish and muslims) most of them believes in the existence of more than one god. Now the funny tricks is that christians, jewish and muslmis share the same "starting point". For example you find in the torrah jesus. But he isn't considered as the "savior" like the christians do. Mohammad (muslim profet) is considered as being some kind of starting point by the muslims and you find him too in the tora (bible not sure).
Keep in mind too that sometimes they got their names changed so the name may seem different but in fact they are talking abou the same person.
2. It's called a design flaw
3. Now your questions raises two answers. If you really believe in god's creation and think that evolution of species (that doesn't says that god didn't created them just that species evolves mmhk ?) doesn't exist you're screwed.
Sexual reproduction is a way to strenghten the DNA and the capabilities of a given species mixing his genes, thus minimizing the risk of keeping "bad dna code" and allowing only the best combinations to exists.
Take in mind that "best combination of genes" here doesn't implies "the superpower thingie at the end" but only that the animal is best fitted with is current environment.
I don't want to "hurt your beliefs" (you're not a zealot) but keep in mind that what is written in the bible :
1. as been "totally rewritten" 1000 years AFTER jesus death
2. is one of the longest collection of text (texts in the bible starts from BEFORE jesus and then there are few additions AFTER jesus death. The bible wasn't written at once.
3. the bible, as many religious books put a lot of "ellipses" (dunno who to name that figure of style in english), so what you read doesn't implies that it's absolute and rigorous true but that you need to interpret the text and think about it.
More generally people who think that the bible contain 100% trueness and what is written should be taken 1st grade are somewhat freaking.
Historically those people are the one that are more prone to kill others because "they don't believe exactly like us".
Even catholics had their moments with the "protestants and catholics wars".
religious question - leucetios - 05-13-2005
ntype Wrote:More generally people who think that the bible contain 100% trueness and what is written should be taken 1st grade are somewhat freaking.
Historically those people are the one that are more prone to kill others because "they don't believe exactly like us".
Even catholics had their moments with the "protestants and catholics wars".
Not to mention the Inquisition. That was the Catholics, wasn't it?
As for the rest of what you said; I tend to agree. For the record, I am not religious at all - I'm an atheist. I was raised catholic, however.
Every so often questions pop into my idle mind. And this last one was around the problems of god creating man in his own image, but leaving out the other half of the equation (initially) and then the questions raised by us having genitals and being created in god's image, implying god has genitals.
For the sake of such idle thoughts, I put aside the whole Creation vs Evolution argument, and just ponder it from a purely religious point of view.
religious question - ntype - 05-13-2005
leucetios Wrote:Not to mention the Inquisition. That was the Catholics, wasn't it?
As for the rest of what you said; I tend to agree. For the record, I am not religious at all - I'm an atheist. I was raised catholic, however.
Every so often questions pop into my idle mind. And this last one was around the problems of god creating man in his own image, but leaving out the other half of the equation (initially) and then the questions raised by us having genitals and being created in god's image, implying god has genitals.
For the sake of such idle thoughts, I put aside the whole Creation vs Evolution argument, and just ponder it from a purely religious point of view.
Yes, inquisition is something really complex, inquisition was a mix of "religious beliefs" and political moves (mainly), it appeared at a moment were "pagan" (that a christian term describing "old religions") needed to be removed to "have maximum market share".
For your genital question I have an answer :
life's mathematics are that way : 1+1=3 (man + woman = something "bigger than them").
Childrens aren't just "the product" of the mixing of the man and the woman but too a separated sprout, sexuality brings the necessary amount of randomness to allow life to perdure.
Anyway like I said evolution doesn't imply that god doesn't exist but that species evolve (the name gives an hint).