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Opinions - TomFoolery - 03-28-2005
Banana Wrote:It may be that way is the US. There was a time here when it was quota related. It's not now. It was a flaw in the fabric of Canadian society. One of many
Remember, I said that is how it is supposed to work theoretically. I assume that most employers think they have a quota to fill, and that's one of the major flaws of the system.
We need more education on the matter. Stay tuned.
Opinions - asshat - 03-28-2005
Penis Biter Wrote:You're not understanding affirmative action; it doesn't require a quota to be filled. It doesn't mean that certain races must be hired.Not true, grasshopper. The affirmitive action policies that i bid work under are very much "quota related". 30 to 35% DBE (disadvantaged business enterprises which are black, hispanic, woman, disabled, american indian, etc....). You HAVE to meet the quota or you have to provide a War and Peace size novel showing with every I dotted and T crossed why you were not able to meet it. I never meet it, but I have spent bunches of $$ developing a computerized system that calls every minority (DBE) on the current city list, documents the message and time, blah blah blah, and I print out a mountain of paper to turn in with every bid. The DBE offices don't like it, but we show our Good Faith and they have to accept it. Most of my competitors just meet the 30 to 35% goals and it gives me an advantage.
In theory, all applicants with similar qualifications must be given an equal opportunity to be hired.
If all minority applicants are shit, don't hire any of them. You will be able to justify your actions.
Now, having said all of that I do not discriminate against anyone that bids to me. I take all serious bids and if they are someone reputable, I use them regardless of any race, etc. factors.
Most of my workforce is hispanic. So, I certainly do not discriminate when it comes to hiring.
Opinions - Bill - 03-28-2005
Asshat Wrote:Not true, grasshopper. The affirmitive action policies that i bid work under are very much "quota related". 30 to 35% DBE (disadvantaged business enterprises which are black, hispanic, woman, disabled, american indian, etc....). You HAVE to meet the quota or you have to provide a War and Peace size novel showing with every I dotted and T crossed why you were not able to meet it. I never meet it, but I have spent bunches of $$ developing a computerized system that calls every minority (DBE) on the current city list, documents the message and time, blah blah blah, and I print out a mountain of paper to turn in with every bid. The DBE offices don't like it, but we show our Good Faith and they have to accept it. Most of my competitors just meet the 30 to 35% goals and it gives me an advantage.
Now, having said all of that I do not discriminate against anyone that bids to me. I take all serious bids and if they are someone reputable, I use them regardless of any race, etc. factors.
Most of my workforce is hispanic. So, I certainly do not discriminate when it comes to hiring.
Exactly....Best Masons I ever had the PRIVLEDGE to work with was an all black crew. and not only were they good masons, they were fun to work with, always on time and under budget.
Opinions - Charon - 03-28-2005
I am hoping for an all-white News. It would actually be violent free for the most part.
Opinions - Bill - 03-28-2005
Charon Wrote:I am hoping for an all-white News. It would actually be violent free for the most part.
cept for when the white kids go crazy and blow up a school.
Opinions - asshat - 03-28-2005
Bill Wrote:cept for when the white kids go crazy and blow up a school.RACK. Excellent point.
Opinions - Bill - 03-28-2005
Asshat Wrote:RACK. Excellent point.
Why thank you.
White people are also more apt to be serial killers too.
Opinions - TomFoolery - 03-28-2005
Asshat Wrote:Not true, grasshopper. The affirmitive action policies that i bid work under are very much "quota related". 30 to 35% DBE (disadvantaged business enterprises which are black, hispanic, woman, disabled, american indian, etc....). You HAVE to meet the quota or you have to provide a War and Peace size novel showing with every I dotted and T crossed why you were not able to meet it. I never meet it, but I have spent bunches of $$ developing a computerized system that calls every minority (DBE) on the current city list, documents the message and time, blah blah blah, and I print out a mountain of paper to turn in with every bid. The DBE offices don't like it, but we show our Good Faith and they have to accept it. Most of my competitors just meet the 30 to 35% goals and it gives me an advantage.
Now, having said all of that I do not discriminate against anyone that bids to me. I take all serious bids and if they are someone reputable, I use them regardless of any race, etc. factors.
Most of my workforce is hispanic. So, I certainly do not discriminate when it comes to hiring.
You're a top-notch manager. Burger King should use you in a commercial or something.
Opinions - snarg - 03-29-2005
i wish we still had the vomit slimie
(but good try anyway)
narg: