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Barbie is an important concern during the recession - Banana - 03-04-2009

Plus, even if Avery amused the hell out of fans everywhere, he can't save the NHL. Even if we had 100 Avery's, that wouldn't be the case.

Barbie is an important concern during the recession - BIRD33 - 03-04-2009

Its a start.Who are the marquee names you have in the whole sport?Crosby, Ovetckin.....There I'm done.Seems to me the NHL used to have more names even casual fans would know.

Barbie is an important concern during the recession - Banana - 03-04-2009

You've never heard of Broduer? Lindstrom? Zetterberg, Luongo, Alfredsson, Chara, Pronger, Sundin? The reason the names don't stand out anymore is because of changes in the league. They've taken a lot of the grit out of the sport, so guys get known for scoring and not much else.

Barbie is an important concern during the recession - leeman - 03-04-2009

Cucumber Wrote:You've never heard of Broduer? Lindstrom? Zetterberg, Luongo, Alfredsson, Chara, Pronger, Sundin? The reason the names don't stand out anymore is because of changes in the leauge. They've taken a lot of the grit out of the sport, so guys get known for scoring and not much else.

*raises hand*

Barbie is an important concern during the recession - BIRD33 - 03-04-2009

Cucumber Wrote:You've never heard of Broduer? Lindstrom? Zetterberg, Luongo, Alfredsson, Chara, Pronger, Sundin? The reason the names don't stand out anymore is because of changes in the leauge. They've taken a lot of the grit out of the sport, so guys get known for scoring and not much else.

If they were in the league in 1994 I know them from the video games.I live right near Jersey so I know Broduer.Other then that I think I know Lindstrom (nicholas?).Never heard of Chara ever.

Kobe
Lebron
Dwayne Wade
Shaq
Tim Duncan
Tony Parker
Kevin Garnett
Allen Iverson
Vince Carter


I bet you've heard of 90% of those guys.The NBA does a good job marketing its stars.The NHL is terrible at it and a lot has to do with some of the stars not speaking english.

Barbie is an important concern during the recession - Banana - 03-04-2009

leeman Wrote:*raises hand*

Question?

Barbie is an important concern during the recession - BIRD33 - 03-04-2009

One thing I do know about hockey is that Forsberg was a homosexual.

Barbie is an important concern during the recession - Banana - 03-04-2009

BIRD33 Wrote:If they were in the league in 1994 I know them from the video games.I live right near Jersey so I know Broduer.Other then that I think I know Lindstrom (nicholas?).Never heard of Chara ever.

Kobe
Lebron
Dwayne Wade
Shaq
Tim Duncan
Tony Parker
Kevin Garnett
Allen Iverson
Vince Carter


I bet you've heard of 90% of those guys.The NBA does a good job marketing its stars.The NHL is terrible at it and a lot has to do with some of the stars not speaking english.
Well, I think you have a point, but not necessarily because of marketing. NBA players are more known because their off the court antics are often and well publicized. You just don't see that in the NHL. I know most of those names, but not necesarily because of the sport. (Tony Parker married Eva Longoria, etc).

Comparing the NBA to the NHL is misleading. The NHL just doesn't have the same following. It reminds me of this joke: What do Elton John concerts and NHL games have in common? 20,000 white people.

I've read that actual game attendance between the two sports is comparable, but that TV coverage is not even close.

Barbie is an important concern during the recession - Pickle - 03-04-2009

BIRD33 Wrote:One thing I do know about hockey is that Forsberg was a homosexual.

Don't ask, don't tell.

I've heard of 3 of the guys on your list, 2 of them are pretty obvious for reasons out side of NBA. Then again I'd rather have a root canal than watch 5 minutes of basketball.

Barbie is an important concern during the recession - BIRD33 - 03-04-2009

Pickle Wrote:Don't ask, don't tell.

I've heard of 3 of the guys on your list, 2 of them are pretty obvious for reasons out side of NBA. Then again I'd rather have a root canal than watch 5 minutes of basketball.


This is why it will never work between us.Sorry.

Barbie is an important concern during the recession - BIRD33 - 03-04-2009

Cucumber Wrote:Well, I think you have a point, but not necessarily because of marketing. NBA players are more known because their off the court antics are often and well publicized. You just don't see that in the NHL. I know most of those names, but not necesarily because of the sport. (Tony Parker married Eva Longoria, etc).

Comparing the NBA to the NHL is misleading. The NHL just doesn't have the same following. It reminds me of this joke: What do Elton John concerts and NHL games have in common? 20,000 white people.

I've read that actual game attendance between the two sports is comparable, but that TV coverage is not even close.

The NHL has no tv package.Versus is a running joke in America.Thats a huge problem.

Barbie is an important concern during the recession - Pickle - 03-04-2009

BIRD33 Wrote:This is why it will never work between us.Sorry.

It's okay. I'll still think of you when I fuck random men at the gypsy camp, unprotected.

Barbie is an important concern during the recession - Banana - 03-05-2009

From another website:

Pro basketball camp:
1. Statistical categories. Hockey has assists, goals, points, saves, and maybe a few others I'm not aware of. Basketball doesn't quite have the numbers football or baseball do, but it blows hockey out of the water.
2. I can pronounce the name of every NBA player, and I know what country they're from (for now).
3. I don't get a chance to watch either sport live. I've been to a few WHL hockey games, and the intensity is awesome. But since I'm viewing from the tube, basketball is just easier to follow.
4. Hockey is a tease. You can go full periods watching players fumble around with the puck in about a 50' area, and it never goes in the net. It's frustrating. You can usually get 20 points a quarter in an NBA game... unless you're from Denver.
5. The "Even I can do that!" factor. I can yell at the TV when an overpaid baller messes up a bounce pass or lay-in. I can't open my mouth when watching hockey, because I can't even skate.


Pro NHL camp:
1) the last twenty seconds of the game doesn't
take twenty minutes to play
2) sudden death overtime
3) unless there's a motor invovled, there's no faster game on the planet
4) shift changes 'on the fly'; what other sport
permits you to change players while play
continues?
5) you have the body contact of football, the
hand eye co-ordination of golf, and puck
movement as quick as any fastball in
baseball
6) If a fight breaks out you get two sports for
the price of one
7) acrobatic goalie saves are the equal of any
basketball dunk
8) The intensity, commitment of hockey players -
they play with broken bones, stiches,
bruises; none of this "I've got a sore toe,I
can't play" bull.
9)Hockey players give more back to the
community than illegitimite children

Barbie is an important concern during the recession - BIRD33 - 03-05-2009

Cucumber Wrote:From another website:

Pro basketball camp:
1. Statistical categories. Hockey has assists, goals, points, saves, and maybe a few others I'm not aware of. Basketball doesn't quite have the numbers football or baseball do, but it blows hockey out of the water.
2. I can pronounce the name of every NBA player, and I know what country they're from (for now).
3. I don't get a chance to watch either sport live. I've been to a few WHL hockey games, and the intensity is awesome. But since I'm viewing from the tube, basketball is just easier to follow.
4. Hockey is a tease. You can go full periods watching players fumble around with the puck in about a 50' area, and it never goes in the net. It's frustrating. You can usually get 20 points a quarter in an NBA game... unless you're from Denver.
5. The "Even I can do that!" factor. I can yell at the TV when an overpaid baller messes up a bounce pass or lay-in. I can't open my mouth when watching hockey, because I can't even skate.


Pro NHL camp:
1) the last twenty seconds of the game doesn't
take twenty minutes to play
2) sudden death overtime
3) unless there's a motor invovled, there's no faster game on the planet
4) shift changes 'on the fly'; what other sport
permits you to change players while play
continues?
5) you have the body contact of football, the
hand eye co-ordination of golf, and puck
movement as quick as any fastball in
baseball
6) If a fight breaks out you get two sports for
the price of one
7) acrobatic goalie saves are the equal of any
basketball dunk
8) The intensity, commitment of hockey players -
they play with broken bones, stiches,
bruises; none of this "I've got a sore toe,I
can't play" bull.
9)Hockey players give more back to the
community than illegitimite children

No way.

I think this recession might have a positive impact on hockey.I don't think the NHL can deal with the ego blow of losing 8 teams before all this.Would have made it look like a second rate league.Now that the economy is in the shitter you have valid reasons to get rid of the blue jackets, panthers etc... and the quality of the game goes up in the process because more teams will have great players that would have been the best player on one of those weaker franchises.

Barbie is an important concern during the recession - BIRD33 - 03-05-2009

Pickle Wrote:It's okay. I'll still think of you when I fuck random men at the gypsy camp, unprotected.



Gayest game ever.Seriously.All concept and no game.Am I right or AM I RGHT(SORRY CAPS LOCK).Ok I'm good.Anyway I think you're a dumb beeeatch.Over and out?

Barbie is an important concern during the recession - Anhil8tor - 03-05-2009

Chara was like a 6'6" defender. I always put that guy on my team.

Barbie is an important concern during the recession - WoolyGoat - 03-05-2009

Chara is 6'9" 250 and the captain of your Boston Bruins.