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marijuana users - quint - 02-09-2009

think this is valid?
good thing i'm a drinker not a smoker.

Marijuana may raise testicular cancer risk: study
By Will Dunham Will Dunham
Mon Feb 9, 12:22 am ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Marijuana use may increase the risk of developing testicular cancer, in particular a more aggressive form of the disease, according to a U.S. study published on Monday.

The study of 369 Seattle-area men ages 18 to 44 with testicular cancer and 979 men in the same age bracket without the disease found that current marijuana users were 70 percent more likely to develop it compared to nonusers.

The risk appeared to be highest among men who had reported smoking marijuana for at least 10 years, used it more than once a week or started using it before age 18, the researchers wrote in the journal Cancer.

Stephen Schwartz of the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle, one of the researchers, said the study was the first to explore marijuana's possible association with testicular cancer.

"This is the first study to look at this question, and by itself is not definitive. And there's a lot more research that would have to be done in order to be more confident that marijuana use really is important in a man's risk of developing testicular cancer," Schwartz said in a telephone interview.

The study found the increased risk appeared to be in the form called nonseminoma testicular cancer. It accounts for 40 percent of cases and can be more aggressive and more difficult to treat, Schwartz said.

Experts are unsure about the causes of testicular cancer, which often strikes men in their 20s and 30s. The disease is seen more commonly in men who have had an undescended testicle or have a family history of testicular cancer.

The disease usually responds well to treatment and has a five-year survival rate of about 96 percent, according to the American Cancer Society.

About 8,000 men in the United States are diagnosed with testicular cancer per year, and there are about 140,000 U.S. men alive who have survived the disease, the group said.

The researchers said they were not sure what it was about marijuana that may raise the risk. Chronic marijuana use also can have effects on the male reproductive system including decreased sperm quality, they said.


marijuana users - Paddy - 02-09-2009

I'm not a doctor but I'll take a look.


marijuana users - BIRD33 - 02-09-2009

quint Wrote:think this is valid?
good thing i'm a drinker not a smoker.

Marijuana may raise testicular cancer risk: study
By Will Dunham Will Dunham
Mon Feb 9, 12:22 am ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Marijuana use may increase the risk of developing testicular cancer, in particular a more aggressive form of the disease, according to a U.S. study published on Monday.

The study of 369 Seattle-area men ages 18 to 44 with testicular cancer and 979 men in the same age bracket without the disease found that current marijuana users were 70 percent more likely to develop it compared to nonusers.

The risk appeared to be highest among men who had reported smoking marijuana for at least 10 years, used it more than once a week or started using it before age 18, the researchers wrote in the journal Cancer.

Stephen Schwartz of the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle, one of the researchers, said the study was the first to explore marijuana's possible association with testicular cancer.

"This is the first study to look at this question, and by itself is not definitive. And there's a lot more research that would have to be done in order to be more confident that marijuana use really is important in a man's risk of developing testicular cancer," Schwartz said in a telephone interview.

The study found the increased risk appeared to be in the form called nonseminoma testicular cancer. It accounts for 40 percent of cases and can be more aggressive and more difficult to treat, Schwartz said.

Experts are unsure about the causes of testicular cancer, which often strikes men in their 20s and 30s. The disease is seen more commonly in men who have had an undescended testicle or have a family history of testicular cancer.

The disease usually responds well to treatment and has a five-year survival rate of about 96 percent, according to the American Cancer Society.

About 8,000 men in the United States are diagnosed with testicular cancer per year, and there are about 140,000 U.S. men alive who have survived the disease, the group said.

The researchers said they were not sure what it was about marijuana that may raise the risk. Chronic marijuana use also can have effects on the male reproductive system including decreased sperm quality, they said.

Might as well cut my balls off now.In the mean time I'll take the reduced sperm quality.I don't need any over achievers leaking out my sack and anchoring me down with a kid.


marijuana users - Banana - 02-09-2009

I'm staying out of this one. Last time I got into a debate about marijuana, some pot head told me I was "blindly accepting moronic standards set by society without any semblance of independent thought about it."


marijuana users - Paddy - 02-09-2009

Dude!


marijuana users - Flumper Barflusterbutt - 02-09-2009

I'll bet clay's balls look like radioactive raisins.


marijuana users - BIRD33 - 02-09-2009

Cucumber Wrote:I'm staying out of this one. Last time I got into a debate about marijuana, some pot head told me I was "blindly accepting moronic standards set by society without any semblance of independent thought about it."


I hope that was me because that dude is right.


marijuana users - Banana - 02-09-2009

BIRD33 Wrote:I hope that was me because that dude is right.

No, it wasn't. And no, you aren't.You have no clue what you are talking about because you have no idea what I said.


marijuana users - Blondie - 02-09-2009

Paddy Wrote:Dude!

I'm sure they're talking about people that actually have balls.


marijuana users - Blondie - 02-09-2009

quint Wrote:think this is valid?
good thing i'm a drinker not a smoker.

Marijuana may raise testicular cancer risk: study
By Will Dunham Will Dunham
Mon Feb 9, 12:22 am ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Marijuana use may increase the risk of developing testicular cancer, in particular a more aggressive form of the disease, according to a U.S. study published on Monday.

The study of 369 Seattle-area men ages 18 to 44 with testicular cancer and 979 men in the same age bracket without the disease found that current marijuana users were 70 percent more likely to develop it compared to nonusers.

The risk appeared to be highest among men who had reported smoking marijuana for at least 10 years, used it more than once a week or started using it before age 18, the researchers wrote in the journal Cancer.

Stephen Schwartz of the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle, one of the researchers, said the study was the first to explore marijuana's possible association with testicular cancer.

"This is the first study to look at this question, and by itself is not definitive. And there's a lot more research that would have to be done in order to be more confident that marijuana use really is important in a man's risk of developing testicular cancer," Schwartz said in a telephone interview.

The study found the increased risk appeared to be in the form called nonseminoma testicular cancer. It accounts for 40 percent of cases and can be more aggressive and more difficult to treat, Schwartz said.

Experts are unsure about the causes of testicular cancer, which often strikes men in their 20s and 30s. The disease is seen more commonly in men who have had an undescended testicle or have a family history of testicular cancer.

The disease usually responds well to treatment and has a five-year survival rate of about 96 percent, according to the American Cancer Society.

About 8,000 men in the United States are diagnosed with testicular cancer per year, and there are about 140,000 U.S. men alive who have survived the disease, the group said.

The researchers said they were not sure what it was about marijuana that may raise the risk. Chronic marijuana use also can have effects on the male reproductive system including decreased sperm quality, they said.


Tits are safe though, right?


marijuana users - BIRD33 - 02-09-2009

Cucumber Wrote:No, it wasn't. And no, you aren't.You have no clue what you are talking about because you have no idea what I said.

Based on past experiences like making you aware of the health benefits of circumcision I still believe I'm correct.


marijuana users - Banana - 02-09-2009

BIRD33 Wrote:Based on past experiences like making you aware of the health benefits of circumcision I still believe I'm correct.

If lack of independent thought is my thing, intellectual ignorance is yours. Unless you've done your reading and research on the negative aspects of circumcision and compared them to the benefits, you're merely talking out of your ass for no other reason than you think foreskin is icky. Childish, ignorant and arrogant. Luckily, youre not a father of any children.


marijuana users - BIRD33 - 02-09-2009

Cucumber Wrote:If lack of independent thought is my thing, intellectual ignorance is yours. Unless you've done your reading and research on the negative aspects of circumcision and compared them to the benefits, you're merely talking out of your ass for no other reason than you think foreskin is icky. Childish, ignorant and arrogant.


I can link you again to the articles showing the reduced rates of certain types of illness's for people with circumcisions.Nothing ignorant or arrogant about facts based on scientific studies.


marijuana users - Banana - 02-09-2009

BIRD33 Wrote:I can link you again to the articles showing the reduced rates of certain types of illness's for people with circumcisions.Nothing ignorant or arrogant about facts based on scientific studies.

And I'll counter them with studies saying just the opposite. Or that research is eqivocal with respect to the medical benefits. I can link you to the Canadian Pediatric Society's stance on circumcision, which states that it's a personal decision, not a medically supported one. American Academy of Pediatrics has the same stance.

Quote:Scientific studies show some medical benefits of circumcision. However, these benefits are not sufficient for the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) to recommend that all infant boys be circumcised.



marijuana users - WoolyGoat - 02-09-2009

Blondie Wrote:I'm sure they're talking about people that actually have balls.
you're ankle biting


marijuana users - Blondie - 02-09-2009

WoolyGoat Wrote:you're ankle biting

I like to call it returning the favor.


marijuana users - Banana - 02-09-2009

I found this link interesting http://www.noharmm.org/comparison.htm

Esp. this part:
Quote: American medicine has failed to prove unequivocally and conclusively that circumcision carries any significant medical advantage over the intact state for the majority of males or their partners. It has also never researched the long-term physical, sexual, emotional or psychological consequences to men of infant circumcision.



marijuana users - Blondie - 02-09-2009

Banana question.


Thoughts on the mental aspect of being uncut? Think a guy would end up with hang ups about it?


marijuana users - Banana - 02-09-2009

Blondie Wrote:Banana question.


Thoughts on the mental aspect of being uncut? Think a guy would end up with hang ups about it?

Hang ups about being uncut? No, I haven't seen it anywhere. However, some of the most prolific posters on a parenting forum I frequent, in the intact care board, are men with the opposite: upset that their foreskin was removed. These are guys who have had life long physical issues and lack of sexual sensitivity in the area.

My grandfather was cir'd as an adult (19 years old). I think he was pissed that his parent's didn't do it when he was younger, because yeah, it hurt. But, science and medicine has come a long way since then. I've read a lot of research that suggests that a great percentage of cicumcisions that are deemed "medically necessary" actually are not necessary.


marijuana users - BIRD33 - 02-09-2009

Cucumber Wrote:And I'll counter them with studies saying just the opposite. Or that research is eqivocal with respect to the medical benefits. I can link you to the Canadian Pediatric Society's stance on circumcision, which states that it's a personal decision, not a medically supported one. American Academy of Pediatrics has the same stance.





And we are back to our former standstill where I side with whats best for developing nations like the ones in Africa were there is a clear statistically measurable benefit of preventing disease for people who have circumcisions.

It seems that because we live in a more developed part of the world circumcisions seem very unnecessary because of the low amount of disease compared to other parts of the world.Circumcisions are of course a weird ritual thought up by our ancestors but by some happy accident they do have small benefits.My question is if there is no benefit to not having a circumcision and only a slight benefit to having one wouldnt you want your child to have that benefit as slight as it may be?